09-17-2007, 01:07 PM
The Red Rd/Puna trail discourse reminded me of one of the times Jim 'n' I went biking the Puna trail between HPP & HA, we were about to turn around because many of the big depressions were filled with water up to who knew where, and along comes a Caravan (of course 2 wheeled) loaded with people, looked very new... & here we were ready to wooose out on our mountain bikes! (It could only be a rental, who whould do that to an almost new van otherwise...)