11-27-2007, 02:19 AM
Sorry Rob but I doubt your summations are correct.
1. All the Super Centers are able to maintain initial low prices because the cost of the development is partially paid for buy ALL taxpayers.
I do not have the actual statistics on this one but, just based on the facts that Wally world is everywhere, suggests this is not due to City or taxpayers supplementing land, resources nor building.
2. A Super Center is not a retail outlet only but also a grocery. Groceries require a larger percentage of full-time semi or skilled workers. The Big Island does not have the people.
You are way off on this one.. In rural Joplin Mo. a city with a population of 40,000. and surrounding metropolis, actually country, or little satellite towns consisting of a total Wally world shopper population, of 150,000. You might be surprised to learn Wally World's got us surrounded. There's three super centers in twon north, west and east. Just 15 miles further east in the county seat a much smaller town is another, super center. Wally's got one more super center 20 miles south, in a town with about 20,000 population.. Moreover they've got us surrounded +++++ Are these stores busy? Yup.. total metro 150,000 and five super centers.
Can Wally support the population in Hilo?? Hell yes. You ever see the parking lot empty?? Only when it's closed.. Wal-mart could build a super center right where they are, but the parking lot is to small. AND there’s plenty people that need the work.
3. Demographics
I think I just covered that..
4. Wal-Marts SuperCenter distribution networks is the best in the world.
Wally world does not re-distribute.. This is Sam Walton's largest advantage.. He didn't move un-sold merchandise, he lowered the price, clearance it. If it did not sell timely, out the door it went.. Not the back, the front. My main Wally world shopping experiences begin in the clearance shelves.. They've all been nearly in the same locations in every Wally word I've been in.. My favorite clearances shelves are in the stores with the lowest volume.. The busy stores move stuff faster and lower the price every two weeks or so. If these clear it out, go to the slowest and there’s plenty, marked down 2-3 times already.. When yaw have a bunch of em around, yaw buy summer in fall, winter in spring, etc..
5. And the most important reason is Wal-Mart is running into problems with their business model.
There is some truth in this, but still major retailers are struggling to compete.. That competition consists of copying Wally's model.. And as far as I can tell, Wally's biggest problem today is Sam aint around no more.. the fundamentals Sam Walton implemented and his vision, ability to roll with the changes, cut losses compromise with employee and customer needs, aint what it used to be..
But union?? Union the reason? Unions are only good if you are in one.. Higher pay, higher health care benefits, all the goodies.. IF you are in one. If not, you are forced to pay higher costs to feed the union.. The unions are some of the most corrupt political groups in our nation.. Part communistic and the rest gangster. Unions are part of the reasons we do not have a general heath care system.. Sam Walton’s vision is not just making money but lower costs for all.. His model shows profit from pennies. Add those pennies up multiply them and foundations are laid for economic opportunity.
There's still many opportunities Wally offers that keeps other competitors in check..
Prices: It is , in case some of yaw have not noticed, but we are a capitalistic country.. Dog eat dog, he who can bring the lowest price is in the top of the latter.. Wally world can make millions, billions a day simply by making one penny on each item.. That’s not competitive pricing that’s cost cutting, low prices.. Crunching those pennies in massive volume spells more for many.
Wally forces the competitors to stay in line..
Returns; Wally give you a return with no questions asked.. Even in 2005 I bought some sandals in Hilo, Made in Hawaii I might add, which wore out in two weeks.. Actually I was pretty rough on em, but they gave my money back.. I bought another pair, good sandals, just not made for trail walking.. On my last visit, a cheep fishing pole.. money back cheerfully.. Wrong sized swim fins, slightly used but exchanged. The list goes on.. They used to have a policy of refunding your money on anything that had a sale tag.. But, people were buying items in yard sales and returning them. ha.. Once, I was at the manager's counter here in Joplin,, this dirty looking fellow brought in his hair and bread trimmer.. It was disgusting, seriously, well out lived it's usage> I could not believe he got a new one.. Still wondering about that??,. But anyways, other stores offer similar returns ONLY because Wally word does.
The expences in Hilo is high ONLY because it lacks competition..
Take lumber as an example… How come I can buy, and ship a whole house worth of materials on the mainland at retail values?.. Ship it privately, or in my own rented container and it will be 20-35% less than anywhere on the island?
When you take into account that Home depot for example, ships massive containers, buys for half of retail, receives discounts on shipping, and you have to pay more than if you shipped it your self?? That is one and only one thing, price gouging and lack of competition.. I can buy a whole house here in Joplin at Lowe’s, ship it out there and still save 10-20% maybe more. Now What’s up with that?? Go to Lowe’s online check their prices in Kona, IF, and that’s a big if, IF they’ll tell you online, because you can take out the cookies they put in your computer tell them you live in the Midwest and then find the REAL price.
People who run over to Costco,, Because they won’t buy a Wally world? that’s a joke.. You are just taking your money and giving it to a similar company.. Brother.
Not having a super center is and will continue to cost Hilo and Puna residences more, it’s that simple.. Competition feeds our economy and keeps the others in check..
I don’t like Wally world’s conglomeration any more than anybody else but I do like competition that stimulates lower expenses.
And if China puts out items costing less than USA made items?? Yaw ever hear of a fat county? The USA is founded on out performing the rest of the world, if yaw can’t roll with the changes, operate and compete with the rest of the world, while demonstrating and demanding capitalistic opportunity, Move over rover, if yaw want to win a race, you have to be the fastest.. China is coming up, India is right behind them, OPEC is getting fat now, and we are or will be left behind if we can not compete.
And pete, I feel for yaw brother, really do, but you need to understand the big picture, not simply life in Puna as you wish.. Puna life ahs been country only because of the volcano, and rough land.. it will always be one of the lowest cost of houseing areas. But life is getting competitive around the whole world. Yaw need this just as much as everybody.
Edited by - Jeffhale on 11/27/2007 06:30:19
1. All the Super Centers are able to maintain initial low prices because the cost of the development is partially paid for buy ALL taxpayers.
I do not have the actual statistics on this one but, just based on the facts that Wally world is everywhere, suggests this is not due to City or taxpayers supplementing land, resources nor building.
2. A Super Center is not a retail outlet only but also a grocery. Groceries require a larger percentage of full-time semi or skilled workers. The Big Island does not have the people.
You are way off on this one.. In rural Joplin Mo. a city with a population of 40,000. and surrounding metropolis, actually country, or little satellite towns consisting of a total Wally world shopper population, of 150,000. You might be surprised to learn Wally World's got us surrounded. There's three super centers in twon north, west and east. Just 15 miles further east in the county seat a much smaller town is another, super center. Wally's got one more super center 20 miles south, in a town with about 20,000 population.. Moreover they've got us surrounded +++++ Are these stores busy? Yup.. total metro 150,000 and five super centers.
Can Wally support the population in Hilo?? Hell yes. You ever see the parking lot empty?? Only when it's closed.. Wal-mart could build a super center right where they are, but the parking lot is to small. AND there’s plenty people that need the work.
3. Demographics
I think I just covered that..
4. Wal-Marts SuperCenter distribution networks is the best in the world.
Wally world does not re-distribute.. This is Sam Walton's largest advantage.. He didn't move un-sold merchandise, he lowered the price, clearance it. If it did not sell timely, out the door it went.. Not the back, the front. My main Wally world shopping experiences begin in the clearance shelves.. They've all been nearly in the same locations in every Wally word I've been in.. My favorite clearances shelves are in the stores with the lowest volume.. The busy stores move stuff faster and lower the price every two weeks or so. If these clear it out, go to the slowest and there’s plenty, marked down 2-3 times already.. When yaw have a bunch of em around, yaw buy summer in fall, winter in spring, etc..
5. And the most important reason is Wal-Mart is running into problems with their business model.
There is some truth in this, but still major retailers are struggling to compete.. That competition consists of copying Wally's model.. And as far as I can tell, Wally's biggest problem today is Sam aint around no more.. the fundamentals Sam Walton implemented and his vision, ability to roll with the changes, cut losses compromise with employee and customer needs, aint what it used to be..
But union?? Union the reason? Unions are only good if you are in one.. Higher pay, higher health care benefits, all the goodies.. IF you are in one. If not, you are forced to pay higher costs to feed the union.. The unions are some of the most corrupt political groups in our nation.. Part communistic and the rest gangster. Unions are part of the reasons we do not have a general heath care system.. Sam Walton’s vision is not just making money but lower costs for all.. His model shows profit from pennies. Add those pennies up multiply them and foundations are laid for economic opportunity.
There's still many opportunities Wally offers that keeps other competitors in check..
Prices: It is , in case some of yaw have not noticed, but we are a capitalistic country.. Dog eat dog, he who can bring the lowest price is in the top of the latter.. Wally world can make millions, billions a day simply by making one penny on each item.. That’s not competitive pricing that’s cost cutting, low prices.. Crunching those pennies in massive volume spells more for many.
Wally forces the competitors to stay in line..
Returns; Wally give you a return with no questions asked.. Even in 2005 I bought some sandals in Hilo, Made in Hawaii I might add, which wore out in two weeks.. Actually I was pretty rough on em, but they gave my money back.. I bought another pair, good sandals, just not made for trail walking.. On my last visit, a cheep fishing pole.. money back cheerfully.. Wrong sized swim fins, slightly used but exchanged. The list goes on.. They used to have a policy of refunding your money on anything that had a sale tag.. But, people were buying items in yard sales and returning them. ha.. Once, I was at the manager's counter here in Joplin,, this dirty looking fellow brought in his hair and bread trimmer.. It was disgusting, seriously, well out lived it's usage> I could not believe he got a new one.. Still wondering about that??,. But anyways, other stores offer similar returns ONLY because Wally word does.
The expences in Hilo is high ONLY because it lacks competition..
Take lumber as an example… How come I can buy, and ship a whole house worth of materials on the mainland at retail values?.. Ship it privately, or in my own rented container and it will be 20-35% less than anywhere on the island?
When you take into account that Home depot for example, ships massive containers, buys for half of retail, receives discounts on shipping, and you have to pay more than if you shipped it your self?? That is one and only one thing, price gouging and lack of competition.. I can buy a whole house here in Joplin at Lowe’s, ship it out there and still save 10-20% maybe more. Now What’s up with that?? Go to Lowe’s online check their prices in Kona, IF, and that’s a big if, IF they’ll tell you online, because you can take out the cookies they put in your computer tell them you live in the Midwest and then find the REAL price.
People who run over to Costco,, Because they won’t buy a Wally world? that’s a joke.. You are just taking your money and giving it to a similar company.. Brother.
Not having a super center is and will continue to cost Hilo and Puna residences more, it’s that simple.. Competition feeds our economy and keeps the others in check..
I don’t like Wally world’s conglomeration any more than anybody else but I do like competition that stimulates lower expenses.
And if China puts out items costing less than USA made items?? Yaw ever hear of a fat county? The USA is founded on out performing the rest of the world, if yaw can’t roll with the changes, operate and compete with the rest of the world, while demonstrating and demanding capitalistic opportunity, Move over rover, if yaw want to win a race, you have to be the fastest.. China is coming up, India is right behind them, OPEC is getting fat now, and we are or will be left behind if we can not compete.
And pete, I feel for yaw brother, really do, but you need to understand the big picture, not simply life in Puna as you wish.. Puna life ahs been country only because of the volcano, and rough land.. it will always be one of the lowest cost of houseing areas. But life is getting competitive around the whole world. Yaw need this just as much as everybody.
Edited by - Jeffhale on 11/27/2007 06:30:19