Puna Makai Alternate route

[lquade]

alex, to your question why there is no mrs shipman, the last shipman, herbert, a lifelong bachelor, died without an heir. his sisters took on married names. same family just no shipmans...

[bethmarie]

Does anyone have an update on PMAR? Thanks.

[Rob Tucker]

The most recent status as I understand it all is that after a couple decades of talking and the passage of the Puna COmmunity Development Plan which endorsed PMAR Faye Hanohano got the state to set up $1.5 million dollars for an EIS (Environmental Impact Study) to gather public sentiment and make some specific proposals and cost/benefit analysis. The last forward action was the PCDP Action Committee unanimously voted to write the governor to release the funding.

But there are three opponents to PMAR which have kinda of united in opposition. Shipman Ltd in Keaau, Hawaiian Homelands in Panaewa and James Weatherford with his HPP PMAR committee. These three have written the governor making various arguments against PMAR proposals which don't yet exist.

It appears that the state is now sending the money to Kauai instead.

So PMAR appears to have suffered a setback.

[john the architect]

Wait, we haven't finished discussing "Shipmans". A year or so ago I walked into the black-and-white sand beach from HPP and my wife had some trouble with a surgically repaired foot. A young lady on the beach asked about her condition and offered to drive us back to our car, up through Keaau and back down into HPP. She was from the family. Not a monster or a caricature, just a real and generous person.

John Maloney
310.562.0362
johnmaloney3@me.com
Hawaii Architect AR8082
www.jmagreenbuilding.com

[james weatherford]

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Originally posted by Rob Tucker
opponents to PMAR which have kinda of united in opposition. Shipman Ltd in Keaau, Hawaiian Homelands in Panaewa and James Weatherford with his HPP PMAR committee. These three have written the governor making various arguments against PMAR proposals which don't yet exist.
It appears that the state is now sending the money to Kauai instead.

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This is not accurate. Why would someone motivate someone to do so much misrepresentation?

Anyway, the HPPOA PMAR committee was formed by the membership of HPPOA. Chaired by Jerry Carr, with 5 other HPP property owners, including myself, as committee members. It is not a committee of one person and its actions are those of consensus among all committee members based on considerable information gathering. This committee never opposed PMAR. The position taken is that the County was not able or willing to provide sufficient information about what was intended, and asked the Governor to defer releasing funds for and EIS. The committee asked the county to spend money that it already has appropriated for the purpose of scoping the project first. That is, start at the beginning.

Is there verifiable information -- not just one person's statement about hearsay -- that these funds have been used elsewhere?

[Rob Tucker]

What misrepresentation? Specifically.

[james weatherford]

The statement "James Weatherford and his committee" -- is not my[u] committee.
The statement that the committee opposed PMAR -- the committee asked for scoping before an EIS; this after a year of talking to people and gathering information from government officials and the community and determining the County was not being forthcoming and was not going to talk with the community until the project was already underway.

[Rob Tucker]

I stand corrected.

The HPP PMAR Committee, with James Weatherford as spokesman, requested the PCDP Action Committee to not request the release of the $1.5 million funding for a PMAR EIS.

The PCDP Action Committee, all nine members, then voted to request the state to release the funds.

Subsequently the HPP PMAR Committee, Shipman Ltd. and the DHHL group in Panaewa serendipitiously wrote the governor asking that the funds not be released.

[james weatherford]

A little better, but still showing your bent for embellishment.

The committee "spokesman" who wrote the letter to the Governor was not me;

The letter from the committee went to the Governor before the PCDP AC sent theirs, not "subsequently"; and

The DHHL communicated to the Mayor.

This matter has already been hashed out considerably at the places below...

http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2012/0...ee-report/

http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2012/0...candidate/

[Rob Tucker]

So James,

Am I clear and correct that you are opposed to the release of the state $1.5 funding for a PMAR EIS?