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One problem with western science since it began is that it always has a substantial segment that are close minded scientists. Close minded scientists say that phenomena need to be tested, measured and analyzed. So, with a little over 500 years of western science, we have tested and measured and analyzed...
to find the Universe is 4% matter. All that we can see, touch, smell, hear, and taste is in this 4% plus light energy. The rest is 70% dark matter and 26% dark energy. Dark matter and dark energy permeate all that we can perceive as a reality. We are unable to observe dark matter, unable to measure it, unable to prove that it is there. And yet, almost all the top theorists think it is there, otherwise the galaxies would be flying apart.
Now the top theorists are postulating that we may encounter lifeforms that are beyond our instrumentation and beyond our comprehension. What if there was a family of advanced evolution spiritual beings that have always been here? Would we be able to measure them directly or only by their effect on physical phenomena?
quote:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-sci...orms-exist
Why Scientists Think Completely Unclassifiable and Undiscovered Life Forms Exist
"Mahalo nui Pele, 'ae noho ia moku 'aina" - kakahiaka oli
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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Originally posted by Kapohocat
Opihikao -
I was wondering with all the thunder and rain last night if Kane-hekili was working to cool off the fire of Pele.
I am trying to read and listen to as much as I can absorb but this came to me as I was sitting outside listening to the rain and thunder last night.
I may have gotten it wrong but am trying to learn.
Thank you!
Aloha kakahiaka, Kapohocat! Mahalo for asking. We are of the Pele line, so in responding, please know my knowledge is influenced heavily with Pele being the base of our kupuna teaching (Small kine disclaimer).
Kanehekili, brother of Pele, God of Thunder, (not rain, Lono, which would cool Pele's lava) may have been announcing the downpour we had.
Of interest, some reading from the archives on Kanehekili:
http://manoa.hawaii.edu/hawaiiancollecti...Thunder%29
This winter, we may have the rare opportunity to witness Poliahu and Pele both.
The elements in total have really shown themselves to us this year! Hope all is well.
JMO.
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Aloha kakahiaka e ke Kumu, Opihikao! (learned that in my one day of Hawaiian class at UH. I just couldn't learn Hawaiian and Microbiology at the same time. Still kicking myself for not trying harder) All I could think of was THOR (dummy) when the thunder was over the flow the other day. Now I know, it's Kanehekili, brother of Pele! If you keep informing us, I'll keep listening, and hopefully learning! Mahalo Nui!
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Originally posted by Kenney
Aloha kakahiaka e ke Kumu, Opihikao! (learned that in my one day of Hawaiian class at UH. I just couldn't learn Hawaiian and Microbiology at the same time. Still kicking myself for not trying harder) All I could think of was THOR (dummy) when the thunder was over the flow the other day. Now I know, it's Kanehekili, brother of Pele! If you keep informing us, I'll keep listening, and hopefully learning! Mahalo Nui!
Aloha e, Kenney! Microbiology will probably get you further in life....lol. An age ago, when we were in school, Hawaiian culture was an "elective" (no credit). We learned from kupuna, not books, so it's all "word of mouth" for most of our ohana.
Thor? Well, the Norsemen were a solid group of human beings, evidenced by their lifestyle. Brought back to mind what we learned about Thor, and the other Norse Gods (winding the brain so far back was a tad of a challenge! lol.)
Lo, There do I see my Father, and
Lo, there do I see my Mother, and
Lo, There do I see my Brothers and my Sisters and
Lo, There do I see my people back to the beginning, and
Lo they do call to me, and
bid me take my place among them in the halls of Valhalla,
Where the brave will live forever.
Have a lovely Sunday, and aloha to you and ohana.
JMO.
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Mahalo Opihkao for sharing more of your (considerable) knowledge that extends to Norsemen and their lore. (you never cease to amaze..) That "Lo" quote was beautiful, and felt Universal in it's truth.
I wonder if there's something similar in Ojibwa oral history. I too "see my people back to the beginning, and lo they do call to me". The call gets stronger and stronger as I age and adjust to the loss of those who gave me life and their love for me, nature and humanity. As you said in a past post, "they are not gone, but reside within us and our issues."
I really do read and love all your posts, even the ones where you're sputtering, choking, rolling on the floor laughing. (Puna webbers often have the same effect on me, which is one of the reasons I love it!)
I really enjoy hearing differing points of view. Vive la difference! I am able to learn new things (to me) update and adjust my thinking, in part, because of the input I get here.
Carol said in one of her posts that PW had been a "lifeline" to her at certain points in her life, and I am finding that to be true in mine too. (I miss her posts and viewpoints)
Sunday was lovely, with the Trades offering fresh air and a hearty nice breeze coming through the window. Today's looking pretty nice too with actual blue sky!
Again, Mahalo Opihkao. You are a shining light!
Happy, Safe day to all!
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