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Contradictions of Historic Preservation and Sustai
#11
“1. : capable of being sustained." The primary example tosses a big snafu in the proposed act of sustainability by virtue of being in an active lava zone. From that example, we can ascertain that the naturally living content of the region is subject to near future extinction/burial by shifting lava flows. Thus it's eco value on a global scale is near the bottom of the relative value list at this time.

The intent of sustainability also goes beyond the product in other ways as in not interfering with a natural eco system as cited above, hence the goal of creating something that is sustainable and not necessary to rebuild in order to preserve the greater eco system by not tapping the origin resource again. This places us in a region best suited for renewable resource construction methods.

True sustainability adopts as a primary target those regions that are non arable and have little to no living ecosystem (Inland Antarctica) or not yet existing (submerged cities not located upon reef systems or naturally occupied sea floor ecosystems and also cities upon the moon or other non inhabited planetoids) and second place target regions would be subject to natural self destruction (Such as an active volcano or an area that is currently covered by sand or will be shortly covered by sand).

We here in Puna live in a second best region as to not infringe upon a current permanent/sustained ecosystem as Kilauea will variably burry most of this region in the next several centuries and over time perhaps a couple thousand feet deep under lava.
So Puna and parts Kau are second best places to build because we're not infringing upon a permanently fixed eco system here.

As per the longevity of the products such as buildings etc. A practical approach on a sustainable level in a non sustainable self destructive region would be to build with products that are not permanent in stature but rather renewable and not using those things that are limited such as steel, concrete and other limited resource products. Because these products will eventually be buried by lava and not retrievable any time in the next several million years until recycled through the planet.

Considering the above and the practical application of true sustainability coupled by this regions characteristics, I see the preservation of the original village of Pahoa to be as sustainable as is practical within the said region.


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#12
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Originally posted by Chunkster



Do you seriously think anyone is going to connect the preservation of Pahoa with any sort of profound social message?
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The "preservation of Pahoa" is being connected to the survival of small businesses occupying the store fronts. No, not very profound.
But then, my intent is not to persuade. Only to share a thought.
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#13
"I can go to Luquins or Kaleos, but not from one to the other."

Why would you need to do that ? You can't even walk there safely !

James is right though,We should destroy and haul off all of lower Puna.It's all a mistake !!!

Only then can we build a true Sustainable Village !!!
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#14
I think what James wrote was poetic and beautiful. It also illustrated what is becoming a common theme in our culture of human-ness:
to take something that has an ugly interior, and just latch onto the shiny exterior. Much like deifying the "Leave It To Beaver" culture, without acknowledging all the subjugation of women, raping of children, etc, etc, that was going on then, without acknowledging it.
Just my 2 cents.
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#15
I remember when Keaau was known as Ola`a and the steak house was called the Ola`a steak house.
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#16
A big part of the problem is that if those buildings come down, there is a multitude of almost insurmountable obstacles to overcome to rebuild in regards to county and state regs. Some make sense / some dont.

One of our PW'ers who has vacant piece in town knows the dilemma. The lots are smaller than what burned in Keaau. Then you also are dealing with all sorts of community input good and bad on what you can get variances for... so IMHO the current buildings are still there because there isnt other VIABLE choices than dont take an arm and a leg.

And although Pahoa was a cane town - it hasnt been one in 25 yrs? 20 yrs?

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#17
Since historic preservation of an area or a building usually involves some guidelines, perhaps one or two photos could be required in the buildings that are restored. They could include examples of when Pahoa was a sugar town, like the cane haul trucks driving on Main Street, workers dressed for field work, etc. These photos would show the reality of the sugar industry on the town, and the people who worked and lived there.
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#18
Pahoa is known as the Wild West, due partially to the cowboy era architecture of the old village. With reality finally settling in, the fear of uncontrolled growth and massive investment pouring in should be fading and seen as delusional. Nobody is going to be sinking multimillions into resorts in southeast Puna. It is doubtful there will be any more geothermal plants, looking much more favorable towards the west. More people will keep moving in because Puna is the only place that has lower priced lots, not that it means they are a bargain. There will probably be more agriculture initiatives. The real threat to old town is becoming irrelevant for any viable business, with most business moving up the highway. This is happening on the mainland and those places become ghost towns, even if they are richly wrapped in history. The solution? Give Pahoa old village a theme and repaint the town, have open picnic tables at the entrance with ono grinds and banners. It was done successfully in the High Plains Drifter and retains that Wild West historical culture.
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#19
Obie,
I said:
"I can go to Luquins or Kaleos, but not from one to the other."

You said "Why would you need to do that ? You can't even walk there safely !" I teach my seventh graders how to use and understand examples, I guess you missed school the day your teachers taught how to comprehend an example.

What I said was an example of the difficulty in moving from one part of a tiny village to the other in a wheel chair. Not being able to walk is a real eye opener about how hard it is to move around and take care of even the most basic needs here in East Hawaii in a wheel chair. Old Pahoa is totally inaccessible to anyone who is not completely able bodied, which for a small community with a lot of retirees is going to be the kiss of death as the baby boomers who retired here age.



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#20
You won't be able to go to the Hunt Surf shop either because they have never put in their handicap parking space and they have no handicap access.
The example didn't make sense to me,a person normally wouldn't go to one restaurant then to another on the same trip.
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