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Quote "Seriously, there's always been a bit of new age stuff on the island but the conspiracy theories and paranoia seems to be getting worse. What gives?
When times are tough and people are feeling it, then this type of thinking escalates. Sometimes with provocation sometimes without. It is up to us to be informed, filter and decide.
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Edited for spelling and to add to that there are mandatory vaccine requirements for every school age child for measles, mumps, rubella. At one time for smallpox, but I believe that isn't required anymore as the disease has mostly been comquered.
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How mandatory is MMR in the US? It seems some religious groups have found a way around it.
http://www.immunize.org/reports/report080.asp
It's not practical to make a vaccination 100% mandatory, it would require violence.
People will always retain the right to do the wrong thing.
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It is VERY manditory, however if willing some people, very few actually, go the cumbersome exclusion route.
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Link to google cache of the Honolulu Advertiser Article
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forum code eats my link, oh well.... they parts are all there just busted
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October 14, 2009
School flu inoculation begins
More than 68,000 kids expected to get shots or nasal mist
By Will Hoover
Advertiser Staff Writer
Not counting last-minute stragglers bearing late par-ental consent forms, 396 Kalihi Kai Elementary students went under the seasonal flu needle yesterday morning, along with 126 kids who took the vaccine in mist form via nasal spray.
There were few, if any, tears. Kids such as fourth-grader Marc Nunez, 9 — who expressed apprehension about getting his shot beforehand — calmly stroll-ed away afterward saying it didn't hurt much.
His secret: "Just look away when they do it," he said.
The occasion was the kickoff of "Protect Hawai'i's Keiki: Stop Flu at School," a program that is expected to inoculate more than 68,000 elementary and middle school students in 334 public, private and charter schools in Hawai'i through Dec. 3.
The school vaccination clinics are being provided by the state Department of Health in collaboration with numerous public and private schools, as well as health care providers and community partner groups.
In the midst of that vaccination effort, the DOH is getting ready to launch a second elementary and middle school program next month to vaccinate students for H1N1, otherwise known as swine flu.
"Other states haven't done something like this," said Gov. Linda Lingle, referring to the fact that two years ago, Hawai'i became the first state to offer free flu vaccine to elementary and middle school students statewide.
"That's why we're so well positioned for the H1NI (swine flu)" vaccination campaign, Lingle said.
The governor was at the school in part to remind students that their parents would soon be receiving another consent form — this one for the H1N1 vaccination program. Lingle encouraged students and parents to read the forms and, if they are comfortable with it, to sign it and mail it back.
Lingle also reminded the students that it's important to be vaccinated for both the seasonal and H1N1 flu strains.
Eventually, she said, the Department of Health and the Hawai'i National Guard would be administering swine flu vaccine to the general public statewide.
"It's not just going to be children, or course," Lingle said. "It will be everybody."
Dr. Sarah Park, state epidemiologist, said the percentage of student participation has increased with each school vaccination clinic program.
"Based on our consent reviews, there definitely seems to be an increased interest among the kids," Park said. "And among the adults as well, actually. Because we also offer vaccinations to the school staff and faculty."
Last year, the total came to 62,000 students and 9,500 staff and teachers.
"I can tell you that in past years we have vaccinated about 43 percent of the kids in Hawai'i ages 5 to 15. And it looks like we will definitely surpass that this year."
Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the state Department of Health, said one reason the percentage for the free vaccination program isn't higher is because a substantial percentage of parents have their children vaccinated before the beginning of the school year.
"Some parents prefer to take their kids to a private physician," Okubo said. "We would certainly like to break the 50 percent mark, and we're hoping that's going to happen this year."
The student H1N1 vaccination campaign should run through January, Okubo said. The DOH hopes to vaccinate as many students in the swine flu campaign as it will in the seasonal flu program, she said.
Additional Facts
H1N1 shots coming up
Free, school-based 2009 H1N1 (swine flu) vaccination clinics will begin in mid-November, the state Department of Health said yesterday. Parental consent forms will be mailed to parents beginning next week, and must be signed and returned to the student's school by Oct. 30.
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I have spoken to the Governor's Office asking for the facts regarding claims that the Governor is contemplating mandatory vaccinations in relation to the H1N1 flu or use of the National Guard to force vaccinations.
The Governor's Office is not aware of any such statement from Governor.
The do refer us all to the Governor's web site:
http://hawaii.gov/gov/swine-flu/
On which the full statements and positions, including the CDC, are available.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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you guys all seem to jumping down the OP's neck here. calling him "New Age" or "Conspiracy". Yet the people in puna have government helicopters peering into everyones yard looking for a forbidden plant. I am getting off topic. Let me help add some information, I could go for pages but i will try to be to the point with my facts.
On Risk Assessment:
The CDC now reports that nearly 4,000 Americans have been killed by
H1N1 swine flu.
Lets add some perspective to that:
how many people die from asprin
“Conservative calculations estimate that approximately 107,000 patients are hospitalized annually for nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID)-related gastrointestinal (GI) complications and at least 16,500 NSAID-related deaths occur each year among arthritis patients alone.” (Singh Gurkirpal, MD, “Recent Considerations in Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug Gastropathy”, The American Journal of Medicine, July 27, 1998, p. 31S)
On Government FORCE
http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/school_la...-mand.html
I know we have a religious exemption in the state, however § 325-34 gives a leeway to the DOH and these are HRS not the state constitution and can be changed, hence a link the the article from the advertiser that this started with
I am treading lightly on this topic as there is A LOT more valid information out there. However if you are an avid tv watcher and enjoy a lot of CNN and MSNBC and FOX, you will likely not actually try to look for the information.
Modern society has been eased into this place where there is non questioning of authority and the mass acceptance of the "information" that is presented to be taken as the literal gospel.
The risks to us from the federal government are real and not imagined. Where do you think the county gets funding for so much of its police and fire equipment? FEMA Grants. We cant actually afford all of this ourselves, it all comes handed down from FEMA with terms and conditions.
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http://hawaii.gov/gov/news/releases/2004...01-19.1145
According to the Mayor’s office, the county currently has federal funding for planning and design of a new fire station in the Pahoa area.
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Maybe you should ask the reporter who quoted her on which i provided a link above.
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Originally posted by Rob Tucker
I have spoken to the Governor's Office asking for the facts regarding claims that the Governor is contemplating mandatory vaccinations in relation to the H1N1 flu or use of the National Guard to force vaccinations.
The Governor's Office is not aware of any such statement from Governor.
The do refer us all to the Governor's web site:
http://hawaii.gov/gov/swine-flu/
On which the full statements and positions, including the CDC, are available.
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I did locate an Oct. 14, 2009 Star-Bulletin article regarding vaccinations and the flu which is located here:
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/hawaiin...begin.html
Assume the best and ask questions.
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Assume the best and ask questions.
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This whole government genocide conspiracy is a joke, right? I would have responded faster but my aluminum foil anti-thought control hat slipped down over my eyes and i couldn't see the keyboard. Ya jus got to be kidding me.
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