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I have to say that in some settings I am offended by, or maybe just uncomfortable with, some words that everyone has heard and understands to be swear words. In an office I worked in we had one person who came in occasionally that was loud and used some of these same words in general conversation. In mixed company I found it to be distracting and slightly offensive. I can understand some people would also find it distracting in a classroom setting. Once upon a time if an employee seemed to be out of line management could talk it through and try to at least reduce whatever was felt to be improper. Now though everyone thinks that they have these rights, maybe because there are so many more lawyers these days. So parents think they have rights and so do teachers and the unions and the administration. It's like a minefield out there,particularly working in the public sector, trying not to infringe on anyones rights.
By the way, no offence intended to any lawyers that might see this.
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I'm with Carol on this one!
Lack! Sorry bud, but before you spout figures or "facts," that are made up, you should disclaim them as your assumptions. Nowhere does is say he is going to "sue for all he can get."
In high school in the 60s, "****" was not all that uncommon in the classroom. You should have seen my 10th grade health class. If a student in college can't bear a little profanity in the classroom, how is she going to do in the real world? I suppose her dad will call he boss the first time she gets chewed out.
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Was it the language he used or was it the fact that he demonstrated a pattern of insubordination by refusing to follow the request of the administration numerous times? I know the language made the headlines but they never said what the reason was. They referenced the language that started the whole thing, but they also mentioned the insubordination which resulted in suspension, so jumping to the conclusion based only on what the professor said is a bit premature especially when any intelligent person could read that there were other factors at play besides the so called free speech issue.
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College is supposed to expose you to a broader world than you already know. In the real world people swear. Maybe the father should home school her for 4 years and create a diploma on his computer.
That is the antiquated idea. Now it is high school part 2, training legal adults that they are nothing but stupid perma teenagers.
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I know this is off topic, but $80,000 in a mainland city is not all that much. It's less than what some Assistants earn and some secretaries. I had friends that were making that in 98 in dot coms with minimal experience. Any school that wants to compete with mainland institutions better be paying similar wages, especially if they expect them to move to such an expensive place to live. If UH is only paying that much for full time tenured professors, they would be scraping the bottom of the barrel talent wise.
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A good example of political incorrectness gone too far.
What a bunch of CRAP
Do I have Your attention......????
No?
S#!+....!!!!
Do I have your attention now?
What a bunch of pansies.
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Ummmm.... this is not high school... it is college. You register for a class. If you don't like the class you drop it. He made it clear he uses these words in his first two classes to make a point. If the student doesn't get the point, they don't belong in that classroom. If enough students don't like the teaching method, word spreads and his classes become thiner until there is no longer a need for the instructor. Punishing a professor because someone's daddy complained is just plain inappropriate. The student could have left class if she didn't like it. Seems to me the instructor said as much. Works for me! Yes, I am from a liberal background, but college instructors are not Sunday School teachers; they aren't supposed to be. In fact, a large part of their job is to get students to think, question, evaluate. Sounds like the instructor was doing his job just fine.
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Originally posted by The Lack
Let's see if I have this right,
a collage professor ....making $80,000.00 a year and had a cushie job working a few hours a day....
the teaching staff at UH Hilo took quite a cut at least a year ago.My friend who teaches there makes a little less than a long time mechanic at a Hilo dealership and not close to $80K. She teaches 7 classes plus all the extra events like Earth Day Fair that gets thrown at them. Cushie? Not in my opinion.
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The article said that the teacher was a lecturer. Such positions are not tenured and are sometimes filled by someone who lacks a Ph.D., and sometimes even a master's degree.
I believe the pay for a lecturer starts in the $40-50,000 range, if they teach full time.
