New restaurant at empty KFC

[rainyjim]

Ill have food not pesticides please.

I was in malama (market) the other day and some elderly fellow was explaining to a young man how his bag of potatoes (which were organic) were actually potatoes while the other bags weren't potatoes at all merely pesticides. While this may be bending reality a bit it's probably a good way to start thinking if we ever hope to have our own sustainable food sources rather than food on a boat.

I'd never eat at a chain restaurant and quite frankly am very concerned eating food prepared by anyone I don't know intimately...

Capitalism, check it out people ... The whole idea of this country is to screw everyone else over and come out on top I'm not saying I support it just saying be aware of where we live!

[bananahead]

Burger King will die next, all them rubbishfood places including Popeyes would die in Pahoa too, and Taco Smell lol ya right... I and hundred more will ALWAYS boycott all mainland rubbishfood joints

Keep the $$ ON the Island, is alive and well in Puna! aloha

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[Kapohocat]

I heard a rumor that it is someone that the new leasee may be someone who (here's a hint) makes magic bars and closed their old shop recently.

I guess we'll all see what goes soon. But for one, I am glad that local businesses are looking at it seriously, and not off island / out of state mainland franchises.

[punafish]

This thread is proof that Punawebbers can find controversy in anything!

My 2 cents: I believe in the free market too. (Um when it's truly free.) Just as others have the right to yearn for Taco Bell, I can hope that the free market allows some ambitious, industrious young kids to hone a skill, be productive, add value to the community, and make a buck in the process--rather than rooting for a minimum-wage, dead-end-job franchise that produces unhealthy, low-quality food and sends their profits elsewhere.

Whatever I may wish for, the market will decide. What I do know for sure is that I'll give the Keaau Youth my business; but will never eat low-quality fast food, because, well, I'm part of the free market too! (Never liked Taco Bell or Popeye's even when I was a junk-foodie, both establishments don't meet my quality standards...but to each his own.)

We can all dream!

[Hawaii Bound]

The name at this location will now officially be Grassroots Community Development Group.

[oink]

How about a Five Guys? Puna needs one of those.

Actually I'm all good with the training restaurant. I hope it is done well and succeeds as both a quality educational facility as well as a good (probably inconsistent) place to eat every now and then.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

[PaulW]

If it's run properly, there will be a net benefit to the economy as the people trained there will be able to get better-paying jobs.

Slave labor? Stolen money? Oh the drama.

[csgray]

I would rather put money into educational programs for citizens under the age of 18 than pay for prisons for them after they turn 18 and have no job skills or work ethic.

Afwjam were you the beneficiary of a public education? If so you really have no right to whine about supporting public education for the next generation. If every aspect of your education was entirely in private institutions that did not receive a single penny of tax money, including nonprofit tax status, then you can whine away.

Carol

[Guest]

As I said its better then most things we spend that money on. I think prisons are a giant waste of money too(the laws are a bigger waste), and they are privately driven with government enabling.
I went to a Friends school. I would hope that children that are a product of an educational institution would not only be allowed but encouraged to question things, especially the institution.
I believe children come with creativity, drive and pure ethics from the get go, then we work as a society to collectively break them of it. I don't think this really applies to this KYBC program so much, I generally like alternative apprentice/work experience.

PaulW: I use the drama to emphasize the philosophy behind it.

[punafish]

Oh man, this is why I love punaweb, it never ceases to surprise me. (And on the "finding controversy" front, I rest my case!)

awfjam, Thanks for pointing out how confused I am. (I really am confused.) But I chose my words carefully on this one: "I hope that the free market ALLOWS...the young kids to hone a skill, be productive, add value to the community, and make a buck in the process." Meaning: they are competing with for-profit enterprises for customers who are free to chose where they spend their money; so call me a "commie" if you will, but I hope they do well enough to survive and prosper.

You seem so cocksure that this won't add to the economy. How would you know that for sure? I think it COULD, likely more than Taco Bell in the long run. Someday a certain percentage of these kids, who could be doing unproductive things with their lives, will get decent paying jobs in our existing restaurants, open their own restaurants, create jobs, and invest in the community.

That said, I agree with you more than you realize, awfjam. But I'm much more concerned with what's good for my community than force-fitting the world into a pure Libertarian/unbridled-free-market ideology...but that's a conversation beyond the scope of punaweb. Maybe if we discussed it over a beer one day you might be able to sway me, especially if you were buying. (Besides, I really want to meet your dog.) But we'll never reach consensus here.

You totally lost me with the "continuing to promote violence" remark.

"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."--Leo Tolstoy, 1897