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http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news...leid=26396
One incident with one Airbus
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124607165106964441.html
One incident with one Airbus
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/261141
One incident with one Airbus
The plural of anecdote isn't data!
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp
The link is the result of a query, I'd have to know what the query was.
If I just fill in 'Airbus" I get 71 incidents, if I fill in "Boeing" I get
over 300, but that's probably because there are more Boeings flying.
The simple fact is that Airbus is just as safe as Boeing. Another simple
fact is that flying is one of if not The safest mode of transportation
in the history of mankind. That's why I even get into Tupolevs without
a worry in the world.
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I'll give ya that Paul. You make some good points actually. Keep in mind Boeing planes have much more history which means more accidents but also means more learned and corrected. I am no expert on this subject short of being close to a million miler on Delta and world traveler. I don't travel by air near as much as I used to primarily because I don't do it for work anymore. Still I just had some weird ideas about Airbus due to some things that struck me as odd about some incidents with them. Again though as you pointed out it is statistically the safest form of travel. Now back to the Hawaiian Airline strike. I hope our December flights are not affected ;-)
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If the pilots are hell-bent on striking, there are a number of actions that the Labor Department and the President can take to delay it. Given the fact that Hawaii's economy is dependent on interisland air travel and Hawaiian Air has a big preponderance of the interisland business, all the statutory "safety valve" delays would come into play. There is a limit to those delays, however, and if one side or the other refuses arbitration, a strike would eventually take place. I wouldn't count on go! to be able to accommodate more than a small fraction of Hawaiian's passengers, although I suppose their parent, Mesa, could bring in more planes and crews if a strike went on for very long. It would be a real mess in any case.
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Bullwinkle,
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From the stats, you can read why I prefer the 737
This is why I keep saying look at the airline, not the airplane. Depending on how you use the stats, the 737 kills many more people than the Airbus 330. Even ignoring the earlier models of the 737 and using the more modern stats, -800s and NGs have many more hull losses than the 330.
You can use statistics to prove what you want, but if there's an airline that starts to lose a few more planes than usual then that's what I think people should look at.
Fortunately, here in Hawaii, Hawaiian is about the safest airline you can fly on. Go to Europe and fly British Airways because they also have a superb safety record. Oh, they fly airbuses as well as boeings and the most recent incident they had was a large aircraft that crashed at Heathrow. Thanks to the skilled pilots no-one was killed.
Incidentally, the cause of the accident is still not known and it a Boeing.
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my suggestion if we want to talk / bash airplanes - another thread or I also play at
http://www.airliners.net (a paid site) see you there. As to the Hawaiian strike .... Hope it does not cause too much disruption
Just booked ito - lax - ams 17 hrs flight time each way, paid my money now Im ready to take my chances
Aloha
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Something scares me a little knowing I may have a disgruntled pilot flying me at 500mph at 25,000'.
Puna: Our roosters crow first
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Me too especially if they are bickering over their laptops trying to figure out the new vacation seniority and vacation scheduling schemes.
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Is it better to have gruntled pilots? They may fall asleep!
Funny that one of the results of the NWA incident is that there is a call for allowing pilots (in the US) to sleep during the flight, as is allowed on many other airlines. Not all at the same time, of course.
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Paul - the call for allowing pilots to sleep at the wheel, as it were, has been around for a long time. Many of the more safety-conscious airlines allow pilots to sleep on long-haul flights but with conditions - both pilots on the flightdeck don't sleep at the same time(!) and it's a nap, 20 minutes or so. Most flighdecks also have alarms for making sure the naps are not longer than this!
Studies have shown that sleeping for a short time during cruise means the pilots are much more alert during the critical phases of flight, such as landing. I think this was a NASA study but might be wrong. The reason some airlines don't allow it is simply due to worries from their legal teams about liabilities.
Bullwinkle - you're kidding me, right? Airliners.net is seen by aviation professionals as a nonsense site taken over by MSFS "experts" and pilot wannabes. Not saying that's what you are, but please be aware of that.
Tom
