H1N1 is spelled martial law

[TomK]

Despite being a little off topic, it was amusing to see a quote from Prince Philip here. Not only does he have no influence on Puna he has no influence in the UK either. Over there he's seen as a bit of a fruitcake who has a son who talks to plants and is as loony as his father. Neither of them have any real political power, thankfully, and whatever opinions you see from them, whether they're about the UK, Hawaii or whatever, are utterly meaningless and often very embarrassing.

[808blogger]

So lets get this straight. I get my entire post slashed out, and some snide crappy comment made at me by the "Admin" and the thread than continues to go "off topic". I would suggest any of you that think you are critical thinkers are actually not, and cannot even see the box you are sitting in.

[Rob Tucker]

808blogger,

I'm still trying to locate your Oct. 14th Advertiser article regarding National Guard being planned for vaccination.

Have you had any luck with this? We would like to examine the basis for a lot of these claims.

P.S. Don't look for a hard and fast line from me here on Punaweb. I don't have time to play full time hall monitor and will not deal with every minor infraction. Most of the time Punaweb works quite well with self moderation (look up the word moderation). You pretty much went off the deep end earlier and I simply let you know. No disrespect intended. We have adopted the measure of striking out things instead of deleting because it leaves the content intact and still delivers the message.

Assume the best and ask questions.

Punaweb moderator

[BigIslandPapa]

According to ABC News Radio & the CDC the death toll from N1H1 (not the Swine Flu - My Niece who is a vet cleared this up for me that there is not a flu that transfers from pork to human) is now 10,000 in the USA, and that 1,000 of those death's are Children 0-18. This so called pandemic has not hit like everyone thought, partly because there was a N1H1 epidemic that hit in 1979-80. The current pandemic of N1H1 is now being called the "Young Person's Flu" because most older people were exposed in 1979-80 and have an immunity.

It is important for all people to inform themselves, look for the information yourself, ask the questions yourself...try not to fall into the traps of the Pro-people or the Con-people's arguments. Seek and Yee shall find what you are looking for.


Aloha & Mahalo

Terry

[808blogger]

The advertiser has locked it. Google has it in their cache.

Ill help you out.....

here is a screenshot of the link
http://imgur.com/2pbJE.png

here is the cached version (2 screenshots)
http://imgur.com/yzXnn.png
http://imgur.com/f4brH.png

The Forum Code wrecks the google cache url and there does not seem to be a [noparse] tag. So look at my screen shots

[PaulW]

Well done with the screen shots.

"The governor was at the school in part to remind students that their parents would soon be receiving another consent form — this one for the H1N1 vaccination program. Lingle encouraged students and parents to read the forms and, if they are comfortable with it, to sign it and mail it back.

Lingle also reminded the students that it's important to be vaccinated for both the seasonal and H1N1 flu strains.

Eventually, she said, the Department of Health and the Hawai'i National Guard would be administering swine flu vaccine to the general public statewide."

Though "National Guard" may sound scary, the missing word is "mandatory". Where dos it say it's mandatory, Original Poster, who has no doubt disappeared to make single postings on every forum he can find?

[mdd7000]

Correct. It isn't mandatory. Parents are given several letters and a brochure as well as consent forms. Parents pick either the shot, the mist or can say NO. The National Guard is being used because they have a decent amount of doctors, nurses, etc. that are already trained and are available to help.

There is no conspiracy and no forced anything.

[808blogger]

And you wonder how prince philip or any englishman ties into puna, hehehe, well all i can say is the fabian society has won, as demonstrated by comments on this topic. Enjoy.

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Originally posted by mdd7000

Correct. It isn't mandatory. Parents are given several letters and a brochure as well as consent forms. Parents pick either the shot, the mist or can say NO. The National Guard is being used because they have a decent amount of doctors, nurses, etc. that are already trained and are available to help.

There is no conspiracy and no forced anything.

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[Rob Tucker]

I have spoken to Will Hoover the author of the October 14th Adertiser article referred to as a basis for fears about National Guard enforcing a mandatory vaccination program.

At his request the Advertiser has provided a link to the original story here:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/articl...40325.html

The word mandatory does not occur.

The word consent does.

The use of the National Guard on a island wide voluntary vaccination program appears to be based factually on the fact that the Guard has medial staff, doctors and nurses, trained to provide medical care.

I have to run. I may add a bit more here later.

Assume the best and ask questions.

Punaweb moderator

[peteadams]

As it is appropriate to address legal topics as they apply to Puna and Hawai'i, it should be appropriate to address psychological topics also. Understanding psychological conditions in ourselves and others is sort of analogous to watching for potholes in the road. The following general description applies to Puna, Hawai'i and the rest of the world:

Overview

Paranoid personality disorder is a psychiatric condition in which a person is very distrustful and suspicious of others.

Symptoms

People with paranoid personality disorder are highly suspicious of other people. They are usually unable to acknowledge their own negative feelings towards other people.

Other common symptoms include:
Concern that other people have hidden motives
Expectation that they will be exploited by others
Inability to work together with others
Poor self image
Social isolation
Detachment
Hostility

Treatment

Treatment is difficult because people with this condition are often extremely suspicious of doctors. If accepted, medications and talk therapy can both be effective.

Causes

Personality disorders are long-term (chronic) patterns of behavior that cause lasting problems with work and relationships. The cause of paranoid personality disorder is unknown. It appears to be more common in families with psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia and delusional disorder, which suggests genes may be involved.

https://health.google.com/health/ref/Par...y+disorder