Another bad "organization"/cult here in Puna.

[laniA]

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Originally posted by silverpenny10

Lorn,

Are there intro meetings where people can come to hear more about the program?

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Hey,Silverpenny,are you planning to go?
I thought you've already been there.[]

[silverpenny10]

Beating cooked chickens is my forte.

[silverpenny10]

Another topic that should be retired.

[PaulW]

Wait, there's more (from the Daily Mail story):

"A staff man is chosen to represent the mother and, while other men stand in front of him, he is goaded to confront her by pushing through a human barrier."

"Another man sobs as he is told to act out beating his stepfather and mother to death."

Such fun. What could possibly go wrong. I can't tell from your handle if you're female, silverpenny, but you do realize this is a misogynistic organization, I hope. Women are not welcome. Or men with half a brain.

[TomK]

Why should it be retired? It's an interesting thread and clearly involves Puna.

http://apacificview.blogspot.com/

[Wao nahele kane]

Silverpenny10 said – ("They had three naked men bring out two chickens that they hit with a hammer."
The visual of a couple of bloody chickens being chased by naked men running around with hammers had me somewhat concerned, until it later revealed to be COOKED chickens. I spear mine weekly with tiny little pitchforks.

"In a letter to the sheriff's office, he detailed some of the rituals and activities he witnessed:
• Blindfolded walking tours in the nude;
• People blowing sage smoke in his face while 50 or so naked men danced around candles;
• Men sitting naked in a circle discussing their sexual histories while passing a wooden dildo called "The Cock";
• Naked men beating cooked chickens with a hammer."
Now all this nakedness really concerns me since I thought about attending a session. Will there be boto size comparison? Mine might be smaller than the other dudes', which will set me up with a life time of misery and self esteem issues. Also, will there be any Catholic priests in the group? I'm sweating in fear as I write this. I already have psychological issues from TSA men in blue feeling me up.

Seriously, before passing judgment, attend the meeting, ask questions, observe. Don't believe everything you hear and read. Investigate for yourself and formulate an opinion based on FACTS, not supposition. It may not be your cup of tea, but it could be for someone else. It's called choice. Don't attack, don't bait someone because they may have differing opinions.)
(There are many other even more pervasive world wide cults where we willing hand over our hard earned cash and life savings: organized churches, organized medicine, banks, stock markets, casinos, bars, and more. Nobody makes us join (well, actually Obamacare is the exception), and the enticements are plenty. Sometimes it's tough to leave and many people do lose their savings, homes, and lives. We all make our own choices and decide our fates. Displacing blame falsely removes accountability.)
(Lorn,

Are there intro meetings where people can come to hear more about the program?

"Assume the best and ask questions", state facts and allow others to formulate their own opinions based on facts.)
(Beating cooked chickens is my forte.)
(Another topic that should be retired.)
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Gullible
Let's just consider this part for a moment.
Hold a greasy cooked chicken in one hand and beat it with a hammer via the other hand. How long will that cooked chicken stay within your grip and how long will it stay intact? Now try a chicken that hasn’t been cooked... up for a little more rationally applied thinking or was that a bit too hard to understand?

Just some of the transparencies in this thread… men wouldn’t care if the chicken were cooked or raw, alive perhaps but cooked or not cooked would make no difference when it comes to someone beating on one. Men would never say “… feeling me up.” ~Silverpenny10. And; you’ll get no argument from me on this one… “I already have psychological issues from…” ~Silverpenny10
You’re obviously a woman posing as a man within this thread. Just out of curiosity, what are you attempting to do within your replies? Would it be the following “Don't attack, don't bait someone because they may have differing opinions.”~Silverpenny10?
Hmmm… I don’t see where I was attacking or baiting anyone here on punaweb (an organization yes) but it’s extremely apparent you are doing exactly that. You are attempting to administer some sort of misguided disjointed twisted acumen through a veil of misrepresentation.

Is this your form of daily entertainment? Bored, lonely or what's the deal?


E ho'a'o no i pau kuhihewa.

[silverpenny10]

kane:"After reading your reply to me about this, I've got to wonder, comparing a heads up about the MKP to complaints about the Boy Scouts (Are you serious Rob?)... Are you involved with the MKP; I ask that because your reply certainly sounds fishy."
That's baiting.

"We need to drive this "organization" off the Big Island and out of Hawaii."
That's attacking without evidence of wrong doing. If you don't like them, don't join. Just out of curiosity, what are you attempting to do within your post? Oh, that's right: "drive this "organization" off the Big Island and out of Hawaii" because you don't like them. Yes, I may be gullible, but so far there's insufficient evidence of any illegal activities. Not liking something or someone is not a legitimate reason to malign them and "drive them off".

"You’re obviously a woman posing as a man within this thread"
Why is me being a man or woman an issue with you either way? ""Bored, lonely or what's the deal?

Sorry, I just don't get the greasy chicken thing.

[Wao nahele kane]

"kane:"After reading your reply to me about this, I've got to wonder, comparing a heads up about the MKP to complaints about the Boy Scouts (Are you serious Rob?)... Are you involved with the MKP; I ask that because your reply certainly sounds fishy."
That's baiting.

"We need to drive this "organization" off the Big Island and out of Hawaii."
That's attacking without evidence of wrong doing. If you don't like them, don't join. Just out of curiosity, what are you attempting to do within your post? Oh, that's right: "drive this "organization" off the Big Island and out of Hawaii" because you don't like them. Yes, I may be gullible, but so far there's insufficient evidence of any illegal activities. Not liking something or someone is not a legitimate reason to malign them and "drive them off".

"You’re obviously a woman posing as a man within this thread"
Why is me being a man or woman an issue with you either way? ""Bored, lonely or what's the deal?

Sorry, I just don't get the greasy chicken thing." ~Silverpenny10
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LOL, How much more rope do you need?
Before you continue your misguided feminine tirade, I've been through this type of training, YOU HAVEN’T, so don't pretend to understand a situation you've no comprehension of. As per the evidence, it's already there and clear to anyone who has EXPERIENCE in such situations. You have no experience in psychological interrogation tactics and have no clue what they do to the human mind. So... stop trying to preach to me about something you've no experience with and stop pretending it's a group of innocent people who have odd likes. It goes WAY BEYOND your comprehension level.
BTW... I'm not at all in awe that you don't get the greasy chicken thing either. There's a whole lot in this that has buzzed right over your head.


If you want to have such an experience, I'd be more than happy to give one to you free of charge. It will change your life forever, guaranteed...
For starters research "Stockholm Syndrome" and you'll see the root of Lorns happiness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

E ho'a'o no i pau kuhihewa.

[Wao nahele kane]

To anyone else who would like to compare this to the Boy Scouts etc... aside from the fact you're playing with FIRE (beyond your experience) and think it's about holding a wood cock, beating on chickens (alive, cooked or not-cooked) with hammers while naked and doing other "weird stuff", YOU'RE DEAD WRONG if you think so, play with all the wood cocks you like, while naked with all the men you like etc... and I DON'T CARE, I fought for THAT!(FREEDOM RULES, F'ING OOORAH!). (BFD PLAY ALL YOU LIKE, I'll JOIN YOU AND HOLD THE WOOD COCK AND SHOW YOU MY HARD-ON WHILE SWAPPING SKIVE'S!)... THIS is far beyond such simplicities, so STOW IT!
BUT... to Lorn Douglas,
If you truly are a real person/your claims are legitimate and you're not just a prankster regular on here playing a game. Let's talk face to face, man to man and that invitation extends to any MKP member here in local Puna Hi. I'm truly available to talk face to face, arms about shoulders with you. Such happiness cannot be ROOT forged from a cue card weekend or continued cue card "program" and deep down, you know that, so do my brothers and to them… SEMPER FI!
One of ours (Rich Tosi) help start this thing before it mutated into the (MKP) and one of OURS (ME) is here to help you be free and whole, arm in arm, "A FEW GOOD MEN" (read or watch it sometime) then MAYBE you’ll catch a wee bit of the travesty in the present MKP. Too my REAL brothers (Semper Fidelis) please step forward and come help clean this mess out here regarding this "SCUTTLE BUTT". PM me Gents and perhaps we can help with regard to our “own” mess.
Here's one of my Di's Boys and yeah I can write him, the "bitch" JK but seriously scuffed my boots back in '82... http://www.4shared.com/account/video/2b8...er_Ex.html

[Rob Tucker]

It is certainly hard to predict what someone will get excited about.