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Damon...they are going to help the folks who need it from the storm damage..are you against that?
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so if that was your families property that had been damaged you would say no, don't come help?
Edited by - aikahimomma on 12/21/2007 13:47:03
Edited by - aikahimomma on 12/21/2007 14:19:05
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point taken
i guess sometimes i like to actually trust the process...the guard is going to help some local folks...no conspiracy- just help the neighbors
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I thought that this Honolulu Star Bulletin article had some interesting informtion on whales and ferries.
http://starbulletin.com/2007/12/24/news/story02.html
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Here in hawaian waters the main whale smasher is the guy who has the whale tour industry cornered. He is a whale foundation leader, a sierra club biggie, yet he continues to smash whales even after killing a child on one of his tours. How can you bang a whale which you,re supposed to be thousands of feet from? Yet he still uses prop driven boats to terrorize his quarry for a tourist thrill ride. He and ships like his are the problem, the whales would like to stay away from ships, but when constantly being chased, they give up fight. Props are the killers. At low speed a whale would slide right off the sf hull but even at low speeds a foundation boat is a killer sharp lines, barnacles and then the guillotine. So here we have capn ahab disguised as robin hood, green power to kill any competition. Mabe sf could run their own discount whale watching and general party round the island trips, get a good reputation, buy off sierra club an mabe earth trust, file a petition and scream about whale watchers with propellors, get em banned, and open up a lot of slips for fishermen who deserve them on all islands!
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Should we have a poll and see how many people think the SF will survive and for how long? I'm giving it about a 25% chance of not making it through 2008.
Already they have canceled trips between Oahu and Maui due to weather and that isn't one of the difficult routes. These are also fairly normal winter weather conditions with the exception of the persistent rains. I think folks are finding out a few difficulties with the ferry. Apparently the rental car companies won't let their cars go on it so tourists will have to get a new rental on each island and because of that they are just as inclined to fly since it is faster. There are also all sorts of folks who's cars are now stuck on another island since the ferry canceled the return trips. Folks have all sorts of stuff in their cars and don't want to ship it back via YB because they fear the stuff will be gone when their car arrives back in Honolulu. So now they have flown home and are having to do without their car. If I had that problem, I'd take the stuff out of the car, box it up and ship it via G-van on YB and the empty car on YB but that's still a lot of bother.
I could see a passenger ferry service between Ewa Beach and Honolulu and between Hawaii Kai and Honolulu. Don't think they would want to run to the windward sides of the islands though. Ferries could go between Kaunakakai and Lahaina and Manele but these ferries would have to be scheduled so folks would be able to get to and from work and cheap enough that working folks could afford to use them.
Who is the targeted customer of the SF? Tourists?
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