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Well, I am still for the trade/barter getting set up. IF I have A and you have B and she has C... we just stand in a circle and say What we want and what we can give... it WILL all work out. We need to have a little faith in one another and not let this become business... it's just neighbors trading off and helping one another out.
Now that I am back from my travels, I was surprised by one of my ranch "helpers" with a big pile for my fridge from our greenhouse... lettuce, green beans, choyote (pipinola) and yellow grape-type tomatoes. We sure had a heck of a feast with all that plus some home baked bread and lamb!!!
This will be as easy or as hard as anyone wants to make it. I am still open to trade as well as selling my lamb. Come one/come all!
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My subdivision in California has these long parkways planted with "instant landscape" trees. I think they are ornamental plums. I walk by them everyday thinking "I wonder if next time we shouldn't just plant REAL FRUIT TREES". It is Southern California. Why aren't food producing trees MANDATED for such areas, or at least opted for by developers and homeowners associations.
On the subject of trading, maybe there could be a "Farmer's market" where NO MONEY changes hands and people just bring items to trade.
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Why not have both? Folks will be able to trade eggs for cabbages as well as script for tomatoes.
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because ifyou are going to use script, you might as well use cash and keep it simple..
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When I lived on the mainland (a cursed phrase, I know...) we had a work coop among a group of 6 neighbors, where hours were accounted for in a debit / credit system instead of money. The same could be done on a food basis, with running totals kept in a ledger. Rotating members of the coop would be responsible for sitting at a table to check people in and out.
In our work coop, we went into it with the understanding that everybody's time was of the same value- engineer, housewife, whatever- an hour was an hour. For a food coop, the same would have to be true- a pound is a pound. With a ledger system, if someone is a contributing member when able, they can get through the lean times. It would also be up to the membership if members were allowed to go negative in the ladger.
A "food bank" on a local level.
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I won't have anything but money to trade when we arrive, but I think that this concept is terrific. Keeping it simple is a great idea. Freecycle Big Island already has some great deals on excess fruit etc. Another great idea is posting where good wild things are growing... There is so much growing all over the island. Jan Moon's book is great at letting us know what is out there, but if we could share locations that would be even better. We could go on expeditions together to harvest wild things like Liliko'i or wild papayas. And if people who have fruit trees on their property that do not want the fruit... share! It is healthier for the trees to be picked clean, as well as the fields.
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In our work coop, we went into it with the understanding that everybody's time was of the same value- engineer, housewife, whatever- an hour was an hour. For a food coop, the same would have to be true- a pound is a pound.
The overhead and expenses associated with some types of labor (medical work or backhoe operation, for instance) are hugely different than for others (say, babysitting or sewing) but this is not to say one is more important than another (I want a competent person babysitting just as much as a competent physician). Certainly it is conceivable that some one-hour-for-one-hour time swapping might work if a person had the luxury to do so or one was "trading up" in the sense that one hour of backhow operation is probably a good deal for a person who would trade an hour of dishwashing services, but maybe not visa versa. How did your crew overcome this obstacle?
Likewise, with goods as opposed to services, how was the differing valuation of items overcome? A pound of turnip, radish, or squash is not probably not exactly equivalent to a pound of nuts, durian, grain, eggs, fish, milk, or chicken. Seems like it would be a tough trade for the person with higher energetics bound in the product versus the lower energetics product if a straight one-pound-for-one-pound trade. How was this overcome?
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To me the notion of a local currency for exchange seems more and more an idea worth exploring and perhaps implementing, at least within the structure of a Big Island-wide cooperative.
A few moments ago an email arrived in my inbox containing some rather startling (if predictable) outcomes should climate indicators continue to shift as they have been. Announcing a new report has been released by the White House, the message said:
The report, Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States, breaks down climate impacts region-by-region
The Northeast:
*Hartford and Philadelphia could average 30 days of 100+ temperatures per year while Boston could see more than 20 100-degree days per year;
*Native maple, beech, birch, spruce and fir forests could be almost entirely lost;
*The climate of New Hampshire could resemble the climate of North Carolina.
The Southeast:
*Much of Florida and southeast Texas could see more than 180 days in the 90s per year while other southeastern states could see more than 100 90-degree days per year;
*Spring and summer drought has already increased by 12 percent and 14 respectively over the last 30 years. The frequency, intensity and duration of droughts in the region are likely to increase;
*Sea level rise and stronger storm surges could inundate and ultimately flood coastal communities along the Atlantic and Gulf coasts.
The Midwest:
*The climate of Michigan could resemble the climate of Oklahoma and the climate of Illinois could resemble the climate of Texas;
*Deadly heat waves like the one that killed more than 700 people in Chicago in 1995, will become more frequent. Under higher emission scenarios, Chicago could experience up to three such heat waves every year;
*Higher emissions scenarios would cause a water level drop of 1-2 feet in the Great Lakes, threatening shipping, infrastructure, beaches and ecosystems.
The Great Plains:
*Hotter, drier summers will threaten the already overused High Plains aquifer, which irrigates 13 million acres and provides water to 80% of the people in the region;
*Increased temperatures and higher carbon dioxide levels will threaten farming activities with more drought, pest infestations, and faster weed growth;
*Under higher emission scenarios, North and South Dakota, which currently see only a handful of 100-degree days, could see 50 or more days of 100+ temperatures per year.
The Southwest:
*Under higher emission scenarios, the southern half of Arizona, southeastern California and Las Vegas could see more than 120 days with 100+ temperatures;
*Most of the region could see precipitation levels decline by more than 40%, pushing already water-strained areas over the edge;
*Southwestern forests will be decimated with less water, more wildfires and more invasive pests. Under higher emissions scenarios, California's mountain forests could decline by 60-90%.
The Northwest:
*Mountain snowpack runoff, critical water needs, could run 20-40 days earlier, threatening water resources in summer months;
*Declining summer streamflows and warmer water temperatures could push salmon and other cold water fish species, already stressed by human activities, over the brink;
*100-degree days are rare today in the Northwest. Under higher emission scenarios, much of the region could see 30-40 days of 110+ temperatures per year.
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Such a statement from the White House is arguably good news for Puna real estate values, which could reasonably be expected to rise higher and higher as the long term implications of it all hit home and millions of people in the USA look for a different locality in which to raise their kids and grandkids. Puna real estate values are about the only measure which can be expected to benefit from such news, however, and even then only if a person is selling and moving elsewhere. For those of us who stay on for decades to come --located at the end of a very long supply chain on a Pacific island with no petroleum oil resources-- cash flow in dollars as a medium of exchange for resources and services may become increasingly difficult. A local standard of exchange makes sense in several ways, especially if indeed reliance upon external supports to Hawaii from elsewhere ever becomes unreliable.
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"There's a scientific reason to be concerned and there's a scientific reason to push for action. But there's no scientific reason to despair."
NASA climate analyst Gavin Schmidt
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Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan all are experiencing global cooling this spring. It has caused lots of extra rain (flooding) and the crops are all very small due to not having enough heat to get into their proper growth cycles.
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