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Interesting question:
Won't those property owners on 6th (and other streets under consideration) now be legally obligated to disclose this possibility to prospective owners on the real estate disclosure form? and wouldn't that effect the property sale value?
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Excellent point orchidlandguy! Because if they run a highway in my backyard..I'm not staying around. And I want to be able to get a buyer
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It is interesting to note that the area of HPP that is most heavily built out with houses are those roads nearest Hwy 130.... and down near the water. It's the mid section with the farthest access to the highway and ocean that are least developed.
Why is that do you think?
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Price? There always seems to be people with money willing to buy oceanfront property..... and the properties close to highway 130 were the first ones to be developed in this subdivision ...and at bargain prices!
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when i was looking for looking for a place about 7 years ago the prices on 15th and 16th were way cheaper but my agent said "no there going to put a road thru there"
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It makes absolutely no sense to build another road that cuts across HPP at any elevation and I'll tell you why...
unless it continues beyond Shower Dr. and connects to 11,making it another route to Hilo, and that will never happen because any road would have to end at the boundry to Shipman Estate..
Who's going to turn off of Hwy 130 to go down a couple miles out of the way to basically go in the same direction? Nobody...
The only advantage to the road would be for emergencies. Or to get around a crash on 130.
The best thing that could Happen would be a road along the coast that connects to Keaukaha. Then we would have something. But again, that will never happen Because It's Shipman Ltd.
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A successful route would have to go much beyond HPP - to the South and East, towards Hawaiian Beaches/Shores if the idea would be to alleviate traffic on 130 and provide an alternative emergency route.
It would also have to go through the Shipman lands at some point.
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My understanding is the long term goal is for an alternative route starting in Nanawale and continuing through Beaches/Shores on through HPP and then to either Hilo or the Highway. The Shipman's opposition to anything going through their land is steadfast. They don't care how many people, living in the subdivisions they profited handsomely from the creation of, die on that Highway, as long as they don't have to experience any impacts to their business plan.
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To play devil's advocate: What is their "business plan"?
Factual They have donated millions - for example, the Keaau high school, among other things, in the immediate area.
edit: I would love an exit from the far end of Nanawale...
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Short term plan is leasing the land they own between HPP and Kea'au for Agriculture. Long, long term plan is development from Kea'au to the ocean, but they want to bank that land for years, if not decades, and a road through it is not part of their plan, regardless of how much it would benefit Puna residents.
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