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03-21-2020, 06:50 AM
quote: Haven't heard of that one. Who has proposed it? Japan has closed a lot of tourist attractions and indoor gatherings of large groups but I believe government, businesses and parks remain open. They seem to be doing fairly well with keeping infections down.
03-21-2020, 07:12 AM
I suspect Japan is working within a much more ridged social structure. If we are learning anything from watching how different societies react to this crisis, it's the ability for groups to work together to take extreme measures and make difficult unpopular decisions that are the most effective in stemming the infections. China's totalitarian society, as unappealing to a western mind as it is, has proven to be the best equipped, and we are proving to be the least. To our extreme detriment.
03-21-2020, 07:31 AM
Japanese people don’t like to touch each other. No hugs, handshaking, cheek kissing. They bow. That may be the difference.
Puna: Our roosters crow first
Puna: Our roosters crow first
03-21-2020, 07:57 AM
randomq:
I don't think it is over-reacting to try to get ahead of this, at least long enough for other options (test kits, studies, antivirals, hospital capacity) to scale up. Other options might include mandatory forehead temperature scans, hand sanitizing, and face masks to enter buildings, including employees. Or test and isolate like in South Korea. We just need a plan other than "wait and see". We agree. Did I leave the impression that “wait and see” was something I was advocating? I feel like a failure as a communicator sometimes. Across the country, on Hawaii, and on the big island, every large gathering has been cancelled. Sports and concerts gone. A myriad of “conferences” cancelled. Schools have closed. It appears many people are staying home to varying degrees and preparing to stay home more. I know of no way to accurately quantify the degree to which social distancing is occurring but to my eyes it happening. My sister in northern WI, whose husband closed his dental practice, says that most everyone is taking it very seriously there. If rural Wisconsin and Puna are pretty much voluntarily laying very low, I would say that’s a pretty good sign. Urban centers are another thing entirely with multi-million populations compared to 200,000 on the entire big island. Surely the curve _is_being flattened and lives will be saved. Is everyone, everywhere, as likely to to be as extreme as the more extreme folks are? Of course not. But the whole “screw anybody not doing what I am doing” attitude (and screw anybody who doesn’t support a mandatory national guard enforced shut down) is just righteous and arrogant to me. But so what? I don’t expect the world to think and behave the way I do. Or to give a flying flip what I say on PumaWeb. Thanks for discourse randomq. Cheers, Kirt 
03-23-2020, 05:33 AM
The mall got broken into already.
two separate break-ins at Prince Kuhio Plaza in Hilo. #1 Hayden Bruce, 18, was arrested on March 19 along with five juveniles and two other adults. #2 The vehicle was located traveling south on Kanoelehua Avenue near Ikaika Street. A traffic stop was conducted, and the eight occupants were arrested and transported to the Hilo Police Station. Along with Bruce, two additional adults identified as 21-year-old Troy Kuhns-Lono of Volcano, and 20-year-old Shon Sare of Kea‘au, as well as five juveniles were arrested. https://bigislandnow.com/2020/03/21/one-...hio-plaza/ That's 8 people in the first incident & 8 more at the second break-in. Sixteen people, loaded into 2 cars, and not one said "hey, isn't this wrong? Couldn't we get arrested? Most of them are back out on the street. Or who knows, already inside other stores?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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