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Puna Makai Alternate route
#71
mdd7000:
Good logic, and I think, an important point.
Particularly if PMAR is not only a "convenience", but an "escape route"
from the subdivisions along 130.
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#72
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Originally posted by james weatherford

... a few more points raised in discussion above...

There may be some confusion that a proposal is to have a new road built just and only inside HPP -- of course, that is not at all what is being considered.

Next, someone raised the issue of splitting PMAR traffic within HPP. This idea was first raised in 2004 during the Puna Regional Cirulation Plan and I think needs to be kept alive, especially in the context of any new road traversing at the rear of lots.


It would be very useful for folks to download and read the PMAR plan in its entirety with all of its iterations, the pros and cons of previous planning and proposals. The thinking and money which has gone into this from 1995 on is considerable

I agree with PMAR 8.2.4 "Multiple Routes" as beneficial to most concerned with least impact on a single core of properties

-Alan


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#73
Mrs. "Shipman" told me that she didn't really care for Puna. Oh,to be sure there are some "artsy parts" that she enjoys, but they don't really go there "down there", she informed me.

I think a condemnation proceeding might be in order. And I mean that in the nicest way, dahling!

I couldn't seem to bring myself to tell her that I arrived at the curtilege of her manse the old fashioned way: I walked there from Puna.

By the way, when I arrived I thought I was still in Puna.

Much lovelier and friendlier than her spouse. They have a lot of trespassers in their jungle and I can't help but sympathize at what that would be like to come home down your very, very long driveway and find a dozen unrepentant pig hunters and their snarling curs on your front lawn.

Excuse me -- can someone please fetch the smelling salts and my fainting couch?
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#74

Seriously doubt it was Mrs. Shipman. Maybe little better research on who you talked to is in order.
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#75
Doubt away, dear quaintly arty resident of Puna!
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#76
Kelena has met other celebrities of note (Goldie Hawn, for example) and has the photo to prove it, so I have no doubt that when K. says it was Mrs. Shipman, it was!
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#77
What's interesting about this discussion, is that there actually is no Mrs. Shipman. Various people stay down there from time to time and others are security but none are Mrs. Shipman. Must have been someone playing with your mind for the heck of it.
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#78
You will note I put Shipman in quotes and she was the owner-- not a guest. She was delightful and left an impression on me.
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#79
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Originally posted by Kelena

Doubt away, dear quaintly arty resident of Puna!

oh I will. There is no Mrs. Shipman. I am buddys with one of the grandsons and have been there often. Sorry, your description and the accent are not at all correct. I checked and he has no idea who could have been talking that way to you. You were duped or played with.
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#80
Oh, this is really tiresome and a little disrespectful, when you think about it.

I didn't describe her. I just quoted her. And then I caricaturized her patronizing and patrician view of Puna. She --the owner of the house, the nature preserve and the jungle that surrounds it and all she surveys-- and I had a lovely, lengthy exchange and she was entrancing.

She doesn't think much of Puna, though, and that is just a fact. She reminded me, in some ways, of Katherine Hepburn and that clipped speech of the Philadelphia Story. I am a bit of a linguist, have a keen ear for accents and I found she had just a touch of that universal accent of the well-off. It's a dialect, really. I first detected it in Beverly Hills where people who were born in very different places, in different stations of life all talk the same way so that they can identify one another (it's the same reason there used to be a "gay" accent). She had something akin to that accent.

As I did feel in some ways that I was her guest, I was quite deferential and polite to her despite her astonishing statement about Puna (which I did not take personally). She did dismiss the entire region with a wave of her hand in a comical, Hepburnesque way. And, as I pointed out above, I thought we were in Puna.

As it is an island, I do feel a little caddish in revealing any part of our conversation which I'm sure she thought was just between us. However, as she clearly saw me arrive from Puna just before disdaining Puna, and since this is Punaweb, I think the breach is justified.

That doesn't mean I think any less of her. Quite the contrary. She is every inch a lady. She graciously pointed out the Nene preserve to me (Nene magically flew just a few feet over our head as she did so). She also pointed out where the water is deepest at the beach, instructed me where to find fresh water around the bend and described her life in California. We talked about her children, her church, her dogs, and many other topics. She knew the beach well and was a wonderful guide. She is also quite beautiful, although no longer youthful except in spirit.

I felt privileged to meet Adele and to have a guided tour of "her" beach. It was even more meaningful to me because getting to Shipman Beach has been on my to-do list for several years. I knew getting there would be a challenge due to my physical limitations. Emerging from the jungle onto that beautiful beach was worth the wait, and worth the walk. I didn't fall once, and that is a miracle. Meeting Adele was the cherry on top. I will treasure the memory.

It does bring me laughs though because she was a slightly bigger-than-life character who said very funny things. And if she isn't in real life, then I assure you, I will make her one. Why? Because I can. Picasso's women weren't actually made out of colored shards, by the way. They were actual women given an artist's interpretation. I think Adele would approve, because she likes the artsy aspects of Puna.

I hope to meet her again. She is quite engaging, quite sociable (to a point) charming, and a very gracious hostess.

She just doesn't think much of Orchidland.
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