Debt Fiscal Crisis Brief -7-27-10

[mdd7000]

The reality is that those people in the co-op are essentially stockholders who also work for the company. Most big corporations allow their employees to purchase stock through payroll deduction and at a discount.

[Rob Tucker]

That applies to most of the population here actually.

[PaulW]

Please don't tell me what I don't realize and/or don't understand, but try to explain your reasoning instead.
How does having a Burger King in Pahoa raise taxes and lower wages? I see the exact opposite: more competition for labor = higher wages. More people working and paying tax = (the potential for) lower taxes or maybe less frequent tax raises.

By the way, "effect" is the noun, "affect" is the verb.

[Bob Orts]

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Originally posted by CFB483

But I already put out two requests here to meet in person, but no one contacted me. So, this is the wrong place I guess.

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It's the right place. Maybe the message isn't of any interest.

The Day's of Aquarius where you can Let the Sun Shine In as you wonder Where Have All the Flowers Gone as you climb the Stairways to Heaven to get your piece of Mellow Yellow, well I hate to break the news to you, those days are dead and gone.

The idea is valid; the song is out of tune.

[PaulW]

And.... he's gone. Mu.

[mailesomaha]

I believe the idea of "Credit" is the underlying problem, both in Puna and in the United States at large, in any type of economic failure; especially in one that results in the loss of your home.

You're right Kathy, no house equals no shower which follows with the loss of self respect and the respect from others and the downward spirals is difficult to stop.

Many countries have been practicing, and now some States in the U.S., co-op housing. And, the idea of eliminating the Section 8 Housing Certificates as well as County Housing (hideous apartment buildings) and replacing them with certificates that are to be used to purchased housing cooperatives excites me.

People can purchase very small sleeping units like the ones in downtown Tokyo with cafeteria-like public areas for $1,000. They could move up to studio apts, and so on until they own their own land (or condo like apartment) free and clear all along.

I envision the co-ops being privately held corporations (by the owners themselves) with a board of directors; voted in by the owners with the traditional oversight of governmental rules that now apply to condos and tenants in common by States.

People would be free to focus on business, job creation, art, raising children, travelling and dancing.

The weight lifted from United States citizens, especially puna citizens, by the virtue of not having to sweat the mortgage payment would prevent China from taking over the world again.....ahuahahaha.

I'm biased because I don't have a mortgage. I've never been able to afford one. I've bought what I could buy with what I had and as time went on I accumulated an acre with a home and I save for my next car. I buy everything I can with choke credit cards because I need to miles because my daughters are so far away but I pay them off every month.

I know, I know, I'll go and start a co-op tomorrow.

[Kapohocat]

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Originally posted by mailesomaha...

I believe the idea of "Credit" is the underlying problem, both in Puna and in the United States at large, in any type of economic failure; especially in one that results in the loss of your home.

You're right Kathy, no house equals no shower which follows with the loss of self respect and the respect from others and the downward spirals is difficult to stop...

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I agree! I also think us Americans who think bigger (houses and mortgages) is better for a 2-person household have it incorrect.

IMHO only, I think a return to multi-generational housing is a possibly option if you have family that lives nearby.

And with all the 20 & 30 somethings moving back home, I think it may be trending that way. But if this is to happen/work then our building codes in the COH need to reflect the ability for ohanas. (Too many cooks spoil the broth otherwise!). This will also be good for the families with young children - isnt it better to know grandma/pa is there every day to also instill their values and pass on their experience rather than a once a month Sunday visit?

[tada]

More radical small house designs-

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story...=128953596

Other people want to make friends- I just want to make money.
James Cramer