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I have to agree with Greg and Paul, this isn't about dogs attacking people. This is all about irresponsible dog owners, that let their dogs run off leash through their neighborhoods.
Those of you who are so quick to advocate putting these animals down seem to add to the hysteria. Has anyone considered that maybe these dogs are running away from home because of the conditions in which they live?
If the irresponsible owners don't care enough to keep track of their dogs I bet they also don't care about their overall comfort and well being at home.
Work with other concerned neighbors and try to voice your concerns as a group to the dogs owner, probably a lot more effective than just one person.
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I certainly don't advocate the unnecessary killing of dogs (or cats or whatever). However, it seems to me, based on the earlier posts, that it's too late to consider taking action as preemptive.
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Pua`a
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Strange but the person I sold some acreage in orchidland got attacked by some pitbulls on 40'th. It was in the paper and she was in the hospital for awhile after.
Being concerned that the dogs could have killed her, I sent her a 16oz fire extinguisher style of the strongest BEAR spray I could find. I know it's not legal in Hawaii but what ya gonna do when you got 6-8 pitbulls that are hunting you down?
Anyway, this stuff will lays out in a cone shape of gas and I'm sure that would stop any dog if it's made for grizzly bears.
If I had a dog on my property even if it was attacking my chickens I don't know if I could kill it, since, I'd be really pissed if someone killed my dog. I could see if it were the second time.
What do you guys think of the 'invisible' fence and shock collars? I hear it works well, if your dog is trained right.
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While this topic can go back and forth about how to handle the situation - DO NOT forget that in BOTH incidents the dogs CHEWED their way into the chicken coops and KILLED for pleasure not for food.
They have a new LEARNED behavior and ENJOYED it.
They WILL do it AGAIN or WORSE!
Who should we fear most the owner, the dogs or BOTH!
O.K. The OP was about loose dogs getting out and killing chickens ...
One of my old neighbors was so proud to tell me only one of his 5 dogs ( a lab he had "trained to attack only on command" ) could be let off the leash. And that another 3 of them when let off would hunt down and KILL any living animal they could find in the area. The last one could NEVER be let off for it would kill HUMANS ... The guy was telling me how this dog would kill even HIM or his wife if it ever got the chance.
Now imagine the day these dogs get out and you are walking on the street or working in your yard.
No amount of Oprah the Dog Whisperer, asking them if they are uncomfortable with their conditions at home is gonna stop them. Its too late for that.
Yep, its about the owners.
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Well, Folks, This is exactly about dogs killing chickens and the risk to humans. No middle ground here. Yes, owners are ultimately responsible, but so what? The risk is from the dogs, who, in my view, need personal attention from whoever is at risk......quiet, permanent,solutions that don't need to be advertised. I have no doubt how I would handle it.
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Dealing with stock killing dogs in a fatal way is acceptable, If done in a humane manner. Anyone using poison and letting the animal die a lingering miserable and painful death should receive the same treatment and would, if he had poisoned my dog. And if you are going to shoot, make sure you know how to shoot and can hit a fatal spot, instead of wounding the animal and then not finishing the job as so often happens when someone with no experience with firearms attempts this. Personally I think the dogs are the wrong target in this case.
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I said I wouldn't but feel compelled to weigh-in on this subject, hopefully for the last time. As the sole human who was held against my will inside of the home as the snarling, barking so-called domesticated dog would not allow me to open the door safely, there is an element that is being left out. This is still affecting me over three weeks later. I have always loved animals (as I type there is a cat sound asleep in my lap) and have never felt such fear from a dog as I did that fateful morning. This canine would be unrecognizable to the family that I'm sure loves it and it's running partner but it more closely resembled Cujo and I can't get the vision of it out of my head. People can discuss this matter and the possible remedies 'till doomsday but the fact of the matter is these dogs absolutley have no business being in a neighborhood just doors away from a toddler just learning to walk. Whatever it takes, something absolutely should be done swiftly and without delay.
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So Pam,
Why not just borrow some traps from animal control and call them when the dog(s) have been trapped?
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Pam,
No one should have to be held hostage by a snarling, aggressive dog. You say the police wouldn't respond because a human wasn't bitten, but you were being assaulted just the same.
In humans, physical contact doesn't have to be made for an assault to take place. If someone threatens you with a knife, you are being assaulted. I would treat your animal attack the same way.
911- There's a large dog attacking me, please hurry, gotta go!
If this dog is as vicious as described, and roaming the neighborhood, he is an imminent threat to anyone walking by. If you feel threatened, don't take a "no" answer from the police. Call again. Our neighborhood watch has established a phone tree and used it on occasion. Several calls are more effective than one.
Once an "attack" complaint has been made against a dog, different protocols and fines are set up for controlling it. That will get the owners attention to the seriousness of the situation.
