Plastic Bag Ban

[Rob Tucker]

Bullwinkle, Please tell me where it is proposed that you cannot acquire and use plastic bags of your choice? I am not aware of any such rule or ordinance.

[Bullwinkle]

I believe the goals of these proposed ordinances "bans" will prohibit grocery stores and other commercial establishments from distributing plastic bags to their customers to carry out the products after purchase .
having seen it in action in my travels - its a pain if one is to carry home more than 2 bags worth back to the car.

This is all ready the case in other cities and states. Hence my reply to the topic

" Hawaii County Council's public hearing on banning plastic shopping bags." is what I responded to with the following post:


Another case of carelessness of the few affecting the freedoms of the many?

Seems to me the issue is the dumping of the plasitic bags once folks use them. In order to keep the aina clean the rest of us prudent users will be denied access.

Mirrors much of what goes on in society today imho. Internal locus of control and social responsibility waning, replaced by rules and regulations from big brother

[Rob Tucker]

Well buy yourself a roll of the bags and stuff a dozen in your pocket. They don't take up much room and you will be doing your bit in supporting the disposable plastic bag industry as well as enjoying your convenience.

The ban is only on a commercial level. Private use is not restricted.

[Bullwinkle]

Another case of carelessness of the few affecting the freedoms of the many

I rest my case with Aloha - have a good day

[Greg]

It astounds me that people bring up the "sanitary" and "convenience" aspects of this new direction for consumerism.

What it boils down to is we as a nation (and here in Puna), have evolved into a shamelessly disposable society. This Island isn't "Big" enough for wasteful convenience. This new legislation is a small step in a better direction.

Wash your bags? Of course it's important to keep your bags clean! Just like plates, silverware, or clothes; If you're going to reuse them, clean them. Darwinism may play a role here.

If you believe in the convenience of a disposable society; use paper plates and plastic forks. Just remember the inconvenience it is likely to cause future generations.

[StillHope]

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Originally posted by Bullwinkle

having seen it in action in my travels - its a pain if one is to carry home more than 2 bags worth back to the car.

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No problem! When they ask if you need a carry out help,say :"Oh yeah!" and let them take all the items from your full shopping cart one by one,including that bleeding chicken.
And to have the unloading process more efficient I propose a drive trough at the back(patent pending).You just pull up ,open the trunk and that helpful guy from the window will hang down to load your car while the other one holds his ankles.

[mar1957]

I just love reading PW..!!..
Can't wait till I can make BI my home. I'm learning so much just learking (wink-wink)
Thank-you all so much..!

[james weatherford]

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Originally posted by Greg
Just remember the inconvenience it is likely to cause future generations.

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Yep, like that.

[Obie]

MYTH: Plastic bags are a major source of litter, and banning or taxing bags will reduce litter.

TRUTH: Plastic bags make up less than one percent of all litter. Cigarette butts, fast food packaging, and food wrappers are much larger contributors. Banning one item that becomes litter does nothing to change the mindset of those that discard trash improperly. Many of the bags that end up as litter blow off of garbage trucks or out of landfills. Landfill operators and garbage haulers should be held accountable for items that escape containment.

Since plastic bags are responsible for less than 1% of all litter, banning or taxing them will have no impact. The solution to litter is public education, recycling programs, and proper disposal.

I believe my method of recycling and using those recycled products is better then an outright ban.
All of the decking and railings on my Lanai's are made from Trex like materials !!

http://www.trex.com/plan/why-trex/enviro.../index.htm

[DTisme]

I'm with Obie.