Posts: 2,490
Threads: 222
Joined: Dec 2005
I don't think that was a "person" rather a spam bot (robot)! They are getting really good too even down to some hawaiian street names. Technology just keeps moving right along.
What they do is automatically set it self up an account and read the forums till it finds something that matches it can insert a canned message. Kind of amazing if you ask me...
But your right the bot should be banned. Or make the sign up process a bit harder on here since... I've seen a lot of spam on here as these things evolve. One day they will be so good we won't even know were talking to a machine.
But no, I don't believe there are any redlight cams on the island yet... I don't even think there are traffic cams? Oahu has plenty of them but speaking of not stopping, I was wondering if its a red arrow like at the junction of Keaau-pahoa road and 130. If it's a red "right" turn Arrow. I think you gotta stop and wait for a green arrow? Right? I guess they had way to many accidents at that intersection... But why not put a sign up no right turn on RED? Just kind of a little confusing as I see half go and half stop there. I play it safe and wait for a green light since that light is really messed up and turns red way too fast. I would think on a 130 highway the light should remain green for a LOT longer for the four lane traffic. Pretty much all the lights are set up wrong for 130. As soon as someone comes the other direction it turns red to stop the flow of 130. I guess someone in the H-DOT doesn't really know how to set up traffic lights to keep the 'FLOW' moving.
I know, welcome to the big island right? Will be really wild when they put the round-about in. Hope everyone has good insurance! 
Posts: 1,168
Threads: 39
Joined: Jun 2005
Indeed the red arrow gives a mixed message! Maybe it means, "STOP TURNING RIGHT!" Or left.
I'm interested in hearing an answer to Eric's question: why NOT just put up a sign saying "no right turn on red?"
Tim
A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions--Confucius
Posts: 14,115
Threads: 424
Joined: Aug 2012
A sign would be redundant; drivers are already required to comply with the "most specific" controls -- in this case, red arrow trumps "right on red" -- and if that's too complicated, I really hope we never get traffic circles.
Posts: 905
Threads: 87
Joined: Jul 2011
I ALWAYS get honked at when turning onto the Keaau Pahoa bypass road coming from the high school.
The sign CLEARLY says " no right turn on red". Just because it's clear traffic wise does not mean I'm going to break the law and turn!
Seriously, I do that turn everyday and get honked at at least 3 days a week there. Ticks me off.
I know the people can read, I know that they know it's breaking the law to turn, so why bother to honk at me? I'm not going to turn!
Dayna
www.E-Z-Caps.com
Dayna Robertson
At Home Hawaii
Real Estate Sales and Property Management
RS-85517
Dayna.JustListedInHawaii.com
Dayna.Robertson@gmail.com
Posts: 1,168
Threads: 39
Joined: Jun 2005
LOL, I'm kinda slooow! Still, why not standardize the message? Either a regular red light with a no-right-turn sign, or the damn red arrow without the sign. Just pick one and go with it!
Traffic circles are easy when you come from a place where driving students are taught to merge properly.
Tim
A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions--Confucius
Posts: 274
Threads: 16
Joined: Jun 2010
quote:
Traffic circles are easy when you come from a place where driving students are taught to merge properly.
Yea, about that. This is one skill that is absent on Hawaiian roads. As I used to ride motorcycles I'm used to being ultra alert for the unexpected. I am used to retirees driving 10 mph under the speed limit, hot rod youngsters doing 10 mph over the speed limit, and blind/impaired/stupid people pulling out into traffic and then going slower than the flow, but please for the love of puppies and small children learn how to merge at speed. It's like a zipper folks, not really a complex concept.
lol
I break the no turn on red right arrow law all the time when it's perfectly clear.
Posts: 10,229
Threads: 345
Joined: Apr 2009
Well, have to admit that if "Ristori" is a spam bot it's very well done - the comment is still there and I'd like to say that...
Oh, now I see it. Yeah, that's spam. Nice Chinese light bulbs. Who wouldn't go for that scam? Thanks everyone, I don't normally respond to spam but that one got me. Anyway, having been tailgated for much of Kaloli drive the other day, horns blaring by a much larger car than I drive I'm just fed up with impatient drivers. Red lights or not.
Anyway, if you look at the traffic lights in Hilo, especially on H11 entering Hilo, there are cameras (they're there leaving Hilo as well). Whether they're in use or not I don't know. They're obviously not red light cameras, they're not pointing in the right direction, but wonder why they are there in the first place. If they are supposed to be a deterrent they're not obvious enough. If they are just traffic cams then where are they being shown? If it's a like the UK and there's a control center looking at speeders, then why aren't those speeders being caught?
All - I'm no conspiracy theorist, hopefully you all know this, but I do wonder what those cameras are there for. If you haven't noticed them then look up next time you're at a traffic light controlled junction when you leave Hilo.
Tom
http://apacificview.blogspot.com/
quote:
Originally posted by TomK
Well, have to admit that if "Ristori" is a spam bot it's very well done - the comment is still there and I'd like to say that...
Oh, now I see it. Yeah, that's spam. Nice Chinese light bulbs. Who wouldn't go for that scam? Thanks everyone, I don't normally respond to spam but that one got me. Anyway, having been tailgated for much of Kaloli drive the other day, horns blaring by a much larger car than I drive I'm just fed up with impatient drivers. Red lights or not.
Anyway, if you look at the traffic lights in Hilo, especially on H11 entering Hilo, there are cameras (they're there leaving Hilo as well). Whether they're in use or not I don't know. They're obviously not red light cameras, they're not pointing in the right direction, but wonder why they are there in the first place. If they are supposed to be a deterrent they're not obvious enough. If they are just traffic cams then where are they being shown? If it's a like the UK and there's a control center looking at speeders, then why aren't those speeders being caught?
All - I'm no conspiracy theorist, hopefully you all know this, but I do wonder what those cameras are there for. If you haven't noticed them then look up next time you're at a traffic light controlled junction when you leave Hilo.
Tom
http://apacificview.blogspot.com/
I hope you don't drive 40 mph in a 55. I have not seen them, however most of what people think are cameras are actually sensors that sense people waiting at the light.
“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
Posts: 905
Threads: 87
Joined: Jul 2011
Kinda off topic but kinda not.
I noticed that the average speed here in the Puna area tends to be 45mph. People go 45 in the 25 and 45 in the 55. Frustrates me.
Also, one HUGE thing I noticed was the ignoring of the school speed zones. People drive like total crazies in the school zones and I don't understand it. The lights are flashing, it says 25, it doesn't last that long, it's not that big of a deal! It's about safety, kids do stupid things like running in and out of traffic.
One kinda wonderful thing I noticed was the Aloha I get on a daily basis. People letting me into traffic in difficult turns and intersections, I love that about Puna and I try to pass it on in a safe way on a daily basis when I have to drive.
Dayna
www.E-Z-Caps.com
Dayna Robertson
At Home Hawaii
Real Estate Sales and Property Management
RS-85517
Dayna.JustListedInHawaii.com
Dayna.Robertson@gmail.com
Posts: 10,229
Threads: 345
Joined: Apr 2009
quote:
I hope you don't drive 40 mph in a 55. I have not seen them, however most of what people think are cameras are actually sensors that sense people waiting at the light.
No, I don't, afwjam. Why would you even think to make that suggestion?
By the way, the traffic light sensors are in the ground. That's why you see people hopelessly waiting for a green left turn light once they've gone beyond the solid white line they're supposed to stop behind.
Tom
http://apacificview.blogspot.com/
|
