Homeless & crime here!!!

[kalakoa]

Having "several different resumes" doesn't help when employers require 5 years experience in a 2-year-old technology. (Not joking.)

[Guest]

Kalakoa, rumor has it they need help in the Gmo fields all over Kapoho? Positions like pickers, managers, sprayers, and small equipment operators. The starting pay is around $10.00 an hour but other positions offer as much as $25.00 an hour. They may also be hiring next door at the Geothermal, some of the local drillers and painters are making $20.00 an hour. You have to call the mayor himself though cause you know its who you know ya to score these quality jobs. (JOKING).

[Guest]

MY intentions were not to kill this thread but to only point out the facts. If these businesses of geothermal and GMO papaya are going to thrive in our area and they are. It would be a blessing to have some of that work and money stay right here in this community. I know all those jobs I mentioned are labor intensive and may not be for everyone, but for most of the homeless or folks considering crime as a job, It may be the difference?. With good hard work like that comes more values and morals than welfare or the street offers. With higher paying jobs in this area such as those. The state should only win you would think?. More actual tax-paying, or welfare minded people would be back at work. With over 50% of puna being ag land and most big ag land, who has those jobs? Are they actually local folks cashing and spending there money here?. Or are those jobs for immigrants. All that precious land being leased should be respected in so many more ways than what is being shown. Seems to me the state is doing a great job hiring on to their welfare system and making it nearly impossible to ever get off. If your answers to such problems are to kill the welfare program?, what would that do to our homeless population?. And when that new homeless population then grows larger than your owning population, well lets just say you wouldn't own anything long.
I wonder what's the percentage of kids in our only public school that are receiving some type of welfare assistance?. I can only imagine it is high, high enough to think how sad it might be to see them all out on your streets DK2. Someday, if you had it your way? I myself don't claim to have anymore answers than the next, only a few more questions maybe. Concerns are what we all seem to have for the current situation. The separations between the rich and poor are only becoming more and more evident year after year. Black and white prejudism is small in comparison to how some of these kids are starting to feel daily in the 21st century due to economic in-equality. I am willing to drive the bus through Pahoa daily, to pick up folks who would like to work these jobs and more. The big question is what are we all willing to do to help or ease the pain for this growing problem?. I say demand more jobs from the local large businesses that our making millions on someone elses land, or have those land owners that lease to these corporations have to hire more locally, at local wages needed. JMO P.S Let the firing squad begin.

[OpenD]

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Originally posted by gypsy69

MY intentions were not to kill this thread but to only point out the facts. If these businesses of geothermal and GMO papaya are going to thrive in our area and they are. It would be a blessing to have some of that work and money stay right here in this community.

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What makes you think they aren't now? Where do you think the workers at the geothermal plant live? Where do you think the small family farmers that grow the papayas live? Where do you think they shop? Where do you think their money is being spent?

Banning GMOs on the Big Island will cost jobs, locally. Limiting the geothermal plant from expanding will cost jobs, locally.

[kalakoa]

When you buy gas and shop at walmart, where does that money go?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Speaking of jobs and geothermal, did you hear that the large geothermal electric plant in the Philippines was damaged by the typhoon? The article doesn't say how many jobs the power plants provide, but they produce a lot of electricity:

About one-ninth of the Philippines’ electricity consumption comes from geothermal power, mostly generated here; geothermal power produces half the electricity in the central Philippines, but a tiny share for the energy-hungry northern Philippines, including Manila, which relies more heavily on coal.
http://www.howmany.org/newsarc/geotherma...s-typhoon/

[Guest]

Well OpenD, I have met a few of these guys that move over from Montana or Wyoming, they rent in Kapoho usually just one room studio type places as they work for geothermal. None of these guys that I met lasted longer than two years, and seem to move back to the mainland in time. As for the papaya growers, I often wonder where they live and if they are getting a fair dollar. Most of the pickers I have met seem friendly enough for the little English they know. The driving habits of many of them does concern me especially through intersections and now possible round-a-bouts. Seems most fly back and forth several times a year for what ever reasons may be. Now for where they shop well fill in your own answer cause you seem to already know D. their money is going back to the Philippines where it goes farther than here. Here are a few for you D: How many acres of GMO papaya fields are currently being farmed in Puna? How much pesticides are being spayed volume wise monthly or yearly on this amount of GMO land?. What is the states revenue for this type of papaya now?. And for geothermal how many more people have they been able to relocate, or support with a living income, than kill or sicken?.

[Cheerio]

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Originally posted by Oneself

I currently live in South Florida, where our climate is very similar, and because of that our homeless is also abundant.

Most of our homeless here are panhandlers and beggars, on every street corner and highway exit, every gas station begging for money.

I rarely here of them being criminals (as far as theft and robberies), why do you think your homeless on the BI are more prone to commit crime ?

Also, Ive read a lot on here about robberies...are these home robberies ? Don't you have a gate and a gun ?

I live in what some would call a so-so neighborhood (I bought my house here in FL for 125K last year) Most of my neighborhood is black or Spanish, but ive never had any problems and I have a shiny loaded friend in my drawer if someone did decide to come in my home.

Why such trouble on the BI >?

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Not all states are as gun-and-gate happy as Florida. Just one of the many things I loathed about the state.

One of the problems tends to be ****ty racist attitudes like this: "Most of my neighborhood is black or Spanish, but ive never had any problems". Oh, "BUT" you've never had any problems despite living amongst the boogeymen? Because people of color are always going to be the ones to be scared of - just ask George Zimmerman! I hate to be a jerk in a forum that already has it's share of troll problems, but I can't NOT say anything about such lazy, open racism. Mo betta you stay put, you'll be in the minority on the Big Island and that might make you feel a little uncomfortable.

Also, as for the 'why'? Pay is crappy, jobs are hard to come by, drugs are abundant, addiction is real.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by Oneself

I currently live in South Florida, where our climate is very similar, and because of that our homeless is also abundant.

Most of our homeless here are panhandlers and beggars, on every street corner and highway exit, every gas station begging for money.

I rarely here of them being criminals (as far as theft and robberies), why do you think your homeless on the BI are more prone to commit crime ?

Also, Ive read a lot on here about robberies...are these home robberies ? Don't you have a gate and a gun ?

I live in what some would call a so-so neighborhood (I bought my house here in FL for 125K last year) Most of my neighborhood is black or Spanish, but ive never had any problems and I have a shiny loaded friend in my drawer if someone did decide to come in my home.

Why such trouble on the BI >?

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Not all states are as gun-and-gate happy as Florida. Just one of the many things I loathed about the state.

One of the problems tends to be ****ty racist attitudes like this: "Most of my neighborhood is black or Spanish, but ive never had any problems". Oh, "BUT" you've never had any problems despite living amongst the boogeymen? Because people of color are always going to be the ones to be scared of - just ask George Zimmerman! I hate to be a jerk in a forum that already has it's share of troll problems, but I can't NOT say anything about such lazy, open racism. Mo betta you stay put, you'll be in the minority on the Big Island and that might make you feel a little uncomfortable.

Also, as for the 'why'? Pay is crappy, jobs are hard to come by, drugs are abundant, addiction is real.

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^^Lets be honest and not play coy. There is nothing racist about facts, and the facts are, Black and Hispanic populated areas are more prone to crime. Facts cant be racist and I despise when people try to make them that way. Facts are what they are. I am actually American Indian and Italian, and probably would be considered a person of color, so I find it hard to understand any point you are trying to make. YOU made the boogeyman comment, so perhaps you may want to look in the mirror, seems like YOUR the one prejudging now, doesn't it ?

[Rob Tucker]

Some people confuse poverty issues with racial issues. Happens a lot here.