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I'm not sure what "vendetta" might mean here. If Tiffany wasn't running for office I certainly have no need to discuss her. As I have stated I have found her to be less than honest and at times abusive. I would expect that to carry into office should she win.... and I doubt she will. Her lack of professional standards - by publishing any rumor or gossip that comes her way makes her, for me, a poor source of news.
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Mahalo Rob, for your explanation of the meaning of; "vendetta".
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What do you mean? I did not offer a definition of the word. If you are suggesting my stated experiences with Tiffany qualify as a vendetta then I can understand why you are one of her supporters. I didn't start this topic but I will participate in it. Tiffany controls all the content on her site... I don't choose all the topics here... members do.
It does make me a bit curious at the lack of comments regarding her candidacy on BIC. Pretty quiet. As of today there are three happy comments in about eight days.
http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2014/0.../#comments
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My comment was pertaining to the in depth dissertation made by KathyH. It is one thing to have an opinion, which we are all entitled to. To take it to another level like was done here leaves me with the perception it's "personal". As stated by Kathy H. there is a history between these two women. Perhaps my choice of words was inaccurate to some. Maybe my English is not as good as it should be. Kala mai.
I agree Tiffany makes some poor decisions (ie. Mr. Tucker's experience, etc.), lacks polish, however, as stated previously, we could do a lot worse, and have.
(*Disclaimer: I've only known Tiffany since her days at Tribune Herald)
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At this point in time I don't think Zendo Kern or Greggor Ilagan have been especially disappointing. Not like others in the past. One may not agree with one or the other on any given issue but these two have both been far from embarrassing.
Could we do worse? You bet.
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I've changed my mind: no longer will I vote for the "effective" candidate -- none of them seem to accomplish anything.
Instead, I will vote the American Way, and choose candidates based on their propensity for drama.
opihikao, I'm sorry but your perception of a personal vendetta is incorrect.
I always write long posts; it's a fault of mine. I spent a long time in a Ph.D. program, and I'm used to writing out all my points. I could write a very long post on going to the store or whatever. The length means nothing in terms of forcefulness or investment. I was only trying to be factual, thorough, analytical, and not misstate my experiences.
I started out with Tiffany with absolute admiration and predisposed to believe the best. After two years, I became aware that certain traits were not something she intends to change. These traits are ones I do not feel make a good elected representative. If she were self aware enough to realize she might want to work on these things, I would feel more positive, but she chooses to only listen to the cheering squad.
As I said, I think if she does get elected, it will not end well for her, and I really do not wish her anything bad. I hope she learns. I don't want her dreams to be crushed.
These are the so-called "personal" experiences I had with her.
When she became interested in doing a story on something sensitive relating to me, she showed no sensitivity or ever asked if her actions might make things worse. It's become a mindset she has that a journalist doesn't need to consider whether actions might have repercussions.
She charged into a situation and made demands of other people that I could have told her were going to backfire, but she just did it. She called a volatile person up and made demands and then said she felt threatened.
When the result was that she came under fire (from others), she went into yoyo mode that swung from immediate charging into a lawsuit to hiding from the reality. She asked me to do things and I did them. She told me to file complaints I wouldn't have filed, and I did it. I like to help, and I tried.
At one point I asked one time for a copy of something, after many many times doing similar for her, she said, no, she didn't have even one minute of her time. It required no effort on her part, and it was public information, just a big hassle for me to get it. I learned then that she considered her time and energy of premium value, but mine not at all. When I find that friends operate that way, I usually just write off being involved with them, as I believe in respecting each person's time and energy as having value.
So from that point I was just an observer, but I was still pro-Tiffany and far from really upset with her. We are at different times of life, and she doesn't really know me, so it's fine.
However, as I read the blog and watched a patade of dramas unfold that were unrelated to me, I began to see a lot of inconsistency, judgmental behavior, wild swings in her ethical stance when it came to what she published, etc.. I saw she was often threatening to sue for minor issues. Lots of drama.
I'm an observer. I have certain standards. You certainly have standards. You are not happy with Hanohano. Well I feel Tiffany is also not professional and has a lot of immaturity in how she reacts and how she charges into things. That is why I thought my comments were worth making, because all of it related to how she might be in office. It was not personal.
What I get from my experiences that I mentioned, is that I have concerns about the way she jumps into a heated situation without thinking through all the ramifications. I think it is very important for a councilperson to consider actions before taking them. Puna has already had one very headstrong rep, from what I can tell. I think Tiffany needs to reflect before she acts, before I would vote for her (if I were in the district).
I would not have written anything if she had not run.
This is not character assassination, rather character assessment. None of it is BS or trying to twist stuff around. None of it is coming from one time she acted like this. If you have never encountered the same, then I can see why you think it is hard to believe, but other people have run into the same issues I did, and that's a pattern.
So, thinking over your criticism, opihikao, I find it off-putting that you don't me but have decided you know where I am coming from.
If I had no personal experience with Tiffany, you would criticize me for talking about what I don't know, I'm sure.
When I do speak from my experience, you say that doesn't count because it is personal experience.
I don't dislike Tiffany. I don't think she is ready for holding public office. One does not need to dislike someone or want to get back for something in order to think they are not right for such an important job.
I've known a whole lot of people in my life, and there aren't more than a handful that I would say I actively dislike. Maybe not that many. Tiffany doesn't even come close to making that list. I think I've made it clear that I admire several of her qualities and believe that she means well, but makes serious missteps in execution of her goals.
How that turns into a vindictive opinion from your POV, I do not understand.
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KathyH, please don't profess to know how I think.
Mahalo for your opinion. I get your point, Tiffany is far from perfect. My personal dealings with her are personal. Over the course of many years we have come to mutual understanding and respect. Agreed to disagree on several issues. That is all.
Best to all candidates, and hope they have thick skin to weather the politics.
JMO.
ETA: Mr. Tucker, I agree that the incumbent young men show great promise. I'm old, and recall others who did not serve Puna well. I'm impressed with Mr. Iligan and Mr. Kern, and have great hope for these young men. Hopefully, rumors will end, and we will know if Mr. Kern is indeed moving to Kona or not. The deadline to file approaches. Waiting for platforms of each candidate (in all races). Apologies for the slightly off topic.
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Paul - you wrote:
"Just what we need, another anti-science person in local government. Anyone know her stance on GM food?"
She's against it for reasons that want me to do this: http://thebookpushers.com/wp-content/upl...cepalm.jpg
From the BIC site:
http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2013/0...y-council/
Quote:
"Yes, believe me, I am against GMOs. I would prefer to see that our papaya on this island are not irradiated. But I respect that technology has found a way to save the papaya here. I personally do not eat a lot of papaya — maybe it’s because I secretly worry that they have been irradiated, but I think our island papaya are delicious."
Make of that what you will. I see it as dangerously ignorant and misinformed.
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