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Big Island Circus Fined $50,000 by DLNR
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10-01-2014, 06:52 AM
What is the difference in zoning at Uncle Robert's and S.P.A.C.E.?
Funny someone would ask. Uncle Robert's is residential. SPACE is agricultural. Punchline: NEITHER zoning allows these "unlawful" activities without a Special Use Permit.
10-01-2014, 07:00 AM
Uncle Robert never asked for a special use permit from the County nor will he ever. Kanaka Maoli don't make deals. Now Graham Ellis is hiding behind this family and from what I hear they are not all in agreement about Graham. That's why it went from S.P.A.C.E. to OUTER S.P.A.C.E. to No S.P.A.C.E.! Now it is Uncle Roberts Ava Market. May it prosper. May it grow. May it never get a Special Use Permit. Long live the Hawaiian Kingdom!!!
Remember, the whole stretch of that street is family and right next to them is a commercially zoned store (owned by a Hawaiian) that is growing and from there anything is possible.
10-01-2014, 07:05 AM
Ignoring the laws/rules of County and State is completely okay as long as it happens AWAY FROM the "keepin' it country" folks.
Got it.
10-01-2014, 09:15 AM
You are right it's time to move on folks...
Graham Ellis, Russell Rude®man, Tiffany Hunt, those political has-bins Bob and Julie Jacobson Rene,Maddie and Mitch Roth and the rest of the clique need to know..... The Universal law is at work here on the Big Island. Rob I know you don't like to see long post on your forum but I could not help myself. Here goes... "There's a Season to Sow, There's a Season to Reap, but You Don't Do Both in the Same Season." -Anonymous I had the fortune to be turned on to the man below his wisdom is the real deal. The reason that I bring him up is because the Law never fails. Ralph Waldo Emerson says that "The Law of Compensation is the law of laws, and I will show you that it is. This Law is also known as The Law of Cause and Effect, or The Great Law or The Law of Karma." "As you sow, so shall you reap” is the saying of this law. What you currently have in your life is a result of your past actions." There are many people think they are exempt from this law. Graham is one of these people. Why would Graham think that he is exempt! Why because he has seen others do? Emerson says this about people who try to get over. "The fallacy lay in the immense concession, that the bad are successful; that justice is not done now. The blindness of the preacher consisted in deferring to the base estimate of the market of what constitutes a manly success, instead of confronting and convicting the world from the truth; announcing the presence of the soul; the omnipotence of the will: and so establishing the standard of good and ill, of success and falsehood." Emerson says in his Law of Compensation essay, “Every act rewards itself.” Remember Graham, there is no such thing as something for nothing that's what I was taught. I think a $50,000 fine and having to take down his money makers and for cutting trees is COMPENSATION enough for me. Let's see what he says to the IRS when he has to explain why the organization has not reported their UNRELATED BUISNESS INTERST on their 990 forms It has always been about the money folks....tax free dollars to support his lifestyle... The site I have referred you to will help those who want to know truly what Graham has been doing under the HVC Here is an example of what I found posted on their facebook page(I guess on orders of their lawyers have removed it). Interesting yet I have a copy. Money: We ask for a $200.00 refundable deposit before your arrival. Upon arrival,interns pay a 500.00 monthly utility fee to cover cost of food, hygiene items (soap, shampoo, toothpaste, deodorant), airport pickups, propane, electricity, water, first aid supplies, telephone with free US/Canada calls and high speed internet services plus maintenance for the bicycles, pool table and sauna that we provide for your pleasure. Bellyacres a non-profit organization. Hum... They sure don't act like it. Let's see how many IRS laws HVC, VGS,BA, have broken. Direct political lobbying without setting up a 501 (h)...accepting donations for a non-exempt organization the Hawaii Community Sustainable Alliance. Which they state is Hawaii State Nonprofit. I can't find them. I went back and looked at the 990's all of them and I found things that just don't add up. y'all look https://www.citizenaudit.org/990294167/#...201212.pdf The above is then most recent return this is HVC's EIN990294167 you can learn a lot about an organization if you have the tools like citizenaudit.org good one. Here is another good tool especially when folks take stuff of their website https://web.archive.org/ it is all so interesting. 
10-01-2014, 09:48 AM
Nonprofit does not mean non monetary. Products may be sold, services may be offered for sale, donations can be requested, salaries are paid to workers. If there is money left over it should go into the bank account of the organization or expanding the organization.
If you saw an ad: ROOM FOR RENT $500 Includes food, soap, shampoo, toothpaste, deodorant, transportation, propane, electricity, water, first aid supplies, telephone with free US/Canada calls and high speed internet services plus bicycle, pool table and sauna. Would you complain that the landlord is some kind of a capitalist ripoff? I've seen ads on Craigslist offering a 8x6 foot plastic Home Depot toolshed in Puna as living quarters for $300 a month. Nothing included.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
10-01-2014, 09:53 AM
Sounds like R.J. wants to hound Graham to his grave.
When is enough enough R.J.? I am fairly confident you couldn't withstand too much scrutiny. I've seen you in action. It is likely that no one is as devoted to your personal destruction as you are to the destruction of others. I think Puna would benefit from a little less of your brand of aloha. You and Sativa are getting to be like Dog the Bounty Hunter only your targets are anyone you don't like.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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10-01-2014, 10:10 AM
“For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness.”
“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
10-01-2014, 10:20 AM
HOPTE - It isn't the offering of rentals that is the issue, it is that they built the rentals on forest preserve land, after clearing Ohia (and presumably selling it) and then collected the rent from jungalows that shouldn't ever have been built in the first place. If anything, DLNR should get the gross (not net) proceeds of all rent collected over those years.
The side issue which was raised, is that they helped these "renters" (hippie wannabees) obtain EBT benefits, then skimmed off of that too. I have no proof of such an allegation, but have heard various rumors over the last couple years, for what that is worth. I am curious what will happen with that.
10-01-2014, 11:11 AM
collected the rent from jungalows that shouldn't ever have been built in the first place
They probably got the idea from County's grant of the massive "tax mining" subdivisions that should never have been approved in the first place.
10-01-2014, 12:48 PM
Seems like Graham has been open enough with his contempt for the DLNR.
quote:It seems to me that doing good things for kids is commendable, but that doesn't give him a right to disregard the special use permit parameters and the fact the conservation land was no way his or HVC's to exploit. Seems like he's been thumbing his nose at County and DLNR for a long time, and they have given numerous opportunities to fix the problem, but he chose to just ignore the rules. People who make and enforce the rules eventually notice. Result - fines, only after much lying about who knew what. The part I find notable is this went on for years without them cracking down, and if not for community activism the authorities may never have noticed. What positive lesson does it teach the keiki by Graham and HVC failing to respect conservation land and failing to take responsibility for the cutting and building? I don't see it. Children who studied at HVC grow up and find out a mentor behaved like a crook. Morally confusing, no? Kathy |
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