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Originally posted by lo-ka-hi
Hawai'i Volcano Circus was founded in February 1991, the officer's of the Board are: Graham Ellis, Irene Kral and Robert Dunn (https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/busine...er=83688D2&view=officers), Village Green Society was founded 2 months later with the purpose to turn income from the property over to the circus, the officers of that Board are: Eric Marantz, Graham Ellis and Irene Kral (https://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/busine...er=83049D2&view=officers).
Forest clearing, "Jungalows" for rental income…but Graham only knows that the circus "was not involved" and he cannot "comment on behalf of VGS" according to his statement to the Tribune Herald?
Apropos, has anybody seen a response from Village Green Society on this issue as announced by Graham in July in his article http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2014/0...more-37442?
Hear, hear. Mister Ellis would appear to take us all for fools if he expects us to believe he had 'no knowledge' of the activities that the DLNR found.
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I just wish Graham would keep his word and come forward with this promised comment from VGS.
Lokahi
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Many things that were issues will become non-issues if south Puna gets cut off.
Many issues should have been settled long before lava forced the issue...
Whatever happens at this point should be "very interesting" indeed.
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"This statement is submitted in response to the Hawaii Tribune Herald front page story of June 27th claiming that SPACE cut down protected trees and built illegal structures"
I just clipped this from the BIC.
Graham was exposed on the 27th of June by the HTH.
The same day Madame Pele started sending her wrath our way.
Coincidence? Fate? Six degrees? Punishment?
Let me know..
punalvr
punalvr
Why you are absolutely 100% correct!
ALL religions and spiritual beliefs in supreme beings or spiritual beings justify their existence solely on the ability to destroy, kill, or in any way possible ruin human life because of perceived bad behavior by those very humans!
It clearly is totally impossible for a volcano to just do what a volcano does.
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Nature works in mysterious ways. who am I to question it!!
punalvr
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Yes, the Moderator's tolerance of RJ/Sativa and other similarly vicious posters is possibly saintly. But it is also the reason not a single elected official or even a legitimate candidate posts here any more - and I wish they would. Freedom of speech...Or tacit exclusion of some of the most relevant voices in favor of the craziest?
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Originally posted by Anxious Messiah
Yes, the Moderator's tolerance of RJ/Sativa and other similarly vicious posters is possibly saintly. But it is also the reason not a single elected official or even a legitimate candidate posts here any more - and I wish they would. Freedom of speech...Or tacit exclusion of some of the most relevant voices in favor of the craziest?
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If elected officials are worth their salt, as it were, none of us should, or could, sway them from communication with their constituents.
With all due respect to those elected, they have been less than candid, especially in this particular issue.
JMO.
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Actually, other than the County officials, they were candid from the outset. Those that want to believe otherwise will do so regardless, and aren't worth worrying about or responding to in such a forum as this. I find it rather amusing though that those who dislike SPACE/VGS/HVC the most, are the same ones that put so much stock in their self-claimed influence.
I predict that if any fine is actually paid, it will be a miniscule, meaningless amount. The County has made too many mistakes and will be drawn into the fracas (which it should), as well as the State and the both of them will left holding the bag of ultimate responsibility.
Any decently priced lawyer will easily show how both government entities screwed up the whole permitting, inspection process, combined with the lack of enforcement and how the long term and well established patterns of behavior by them have caused and allowed this kind of situation from the get go. The County is going to come out this with some serious butthurt.
Be careful what you want out of this matter.
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