02-09-2015, 08:09 PM
Morning TomK - I very much appreciate what you've said here and how you've said it. This topic is clearly very polarizing with strong opinions based on too many years of arguing and assuming the worst of everyone IMHO. For most of that time, I admit I felt it was a NIMBY issue, until having heard more directly from new friends in the area. This lead me to dig very deep in my best attempt to understand.
As I've said elsewhere, I look at this as a discussion, not a debate. The tone and perspective I'm trying to maintain is one of open inquiry, not of scoring points through misinformation, rhetorical tactics, or personal attacks. However this is punaweb so the one-liners, fallacious retorts, and snark tend to flow freely (and can be quite entertaining and infectious at times
I'm sorry if it sounded like I singled you out for asking about Harry Kim; I missed the opportunity earlier to keep things more on the rails. Your question is worth considering and looking into for your own satisfaction. Hopefully no offense taken, as there is none taken on my side. This isn't my first rodeo.
You brought up Carl Sagan who, along with his contemporary Neil deGrasse Tyson, may offer an example of how to best communicate about science: with clarity, sincerity, and humility that carries the message to a wide audience.
I am going to step back for a bit on this, but I do look forward to more conversation on this topic with whomever might be interested.
Hopefully the view is nice if you're working tonight. I'll have to settle for a new Cosmos (which isn't too bad at all
Cheers for now!
As I've said elsewhere, I look at this as a discussion, not a debate. The tone and perspective I'm trying to maintain is one of open inquiry, not of scoring points through misinformation, rhetorical tactics, or personal attacks. However this is punaweb so the one-liners, fallacious retorts, and snark tend to flow freely (and can be quite entertaining and infectious at times
I'm sorry if it sounded like I singled you out for asking about Harry Kim; I missed the opportunity earlier to keep things more on the rails. Your question is worth considering and looking into for your own satisfaction. Hopefully no offense taken, as there is none taken on my side. This isn't my first rodeo.
You brought up Carl Sagan who, along with his contemporary Neil deGrasse Tyson, may offer an example of how to best communicate about science: with clarity, sincerity, and humility that carries the message to a wide audience.
I am going to step back for a bit on this, but I do look forward to more conversation on this topic with whomever might be interested.
Hopefully the view is nice if you're working tonight. I'll have to settle for a new Cosmos (which isn't too bad at all
Cheers for now!