Protestors arrested on Mauna Kea 07/31/15

[jrw]

More time given and more warnings you have to be kidding me they know for 2 weeks about this. They have been told by drn people. This should been done the first day.

jrw

[leilanidude]

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Originally posted by PunaMauka2

I'm thinking there should have been some more warnings issued to the protectors. I mean, how do we know they are aware of the unclear rules and regulations in place on MK. Seems unfair and heavyhanded.

Free the mountain! Reinstate the Kingdom!

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Did you not realize that the protesters filed a lawsuit against the (then) impending new regulations, even before the 1st "official notice" was given to them? This means that they already knew of, and were aware of exactly what those new regulations were. One notice was more than enough.

[PunaMauka2]

Thanks jrw, I needed that. Drank the Koolaid and lost my senses to the activist's fervor there for a moment.

[lo-ka-hi]

I find the comments here really disheartening. Ige said in his speech on the 27th of May that the 'host' culture, that would be the hawaiian culture, has to be respected. The County is considering making today a hawaiian holiday. How is that respect when a hawaiian holiday was chosen for the arrest? I am not debating the arrests here, just the timing.

[PunaMauka2]

lo-ka-hi, I think you are reading way too much into any timing. Comes across as rather desparate nitpicking over a nonexistent holiday.

[Guest]

Good morning Leilanidude. Maybe your Ormat geothermal operations are often done in secret with very little public involvement. Probably not the direction a mega-tourist attraction like the TMT wants to take unless it is the last option, jmo. The public or community not in favor of the TMT probably wouldn't react to well to the snake approach you, mike, and Billy preach or practice?

Hope the protectors who were arrested were not participating in the planned early morning prayers for the la ho'i ho'i ea day? Just another day of unrest for Maunakea, Haleakala, and much of the local communities. These precious summit tops use to be peaceful places many could go to get away from the daily chaos that happens in other places, not anymore. Jmo,belief here! Allowing all this observatory development is now changing more than just the landscape or environment of these once treasured places. Its now making waves and negative changes amongst the people living here, didn't anyone predict this or warn against this continued kind of disrespect (development )? Won't be long until the tourist start feeling this growing vibe and tension, going to be harder to hide the (kapu Aloha movement) from the rest of the world.

[Chunkster]

We already have a lot of county and state holidays specific to Hawaii and Hawaiian culture. If they want a new one, they should have to decommission one of the older ones. As I understand it, today is not a legal holiday, but rather an observance. The long overdue police action was likely coincidental to the date and not an intentional inflammatory act. Why would they suddenly be provocative when they have bent over backwards for months to placate the protesters?

[Kapoho Joe]

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Originally posted by lo-ka-hi

I find the comments here really disheartening. Ige said in his speech on the 27th of May that the 'host' culture, that would be the hawaiian culture, has to be respected. The County is considering making today a hawaiian holiday. How is that respect when a hawaiian holiday was chosen for the arrest? I am not debating the arrests here, just the timing.

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Nope. Ige is a politrickster and says what he has to. Plenty of regular people are fed up with your juvenile grandstanding. The feds came last year to talk story and offer an olive branch and you **** all over that.

Now you have the nerve to disrupt peoples jobs, peoples vacations and peoples lives and you want sympathy for what? Your great great great did not have the intestinal fortitude to defend his homeland? Grow up! My Irish ancestors were raped, pillaged and sold as slaves. Do you see me picketing 10 Downing Street?

I say build the TMT today and start strip mining Haleakala tomorrow!

[ericlp]

Don't get too fired up over this. This is just the beginning. 7 yesterday, like I said, there will be plenty of cops going up the mountain to arrest even more. I think tonight another 10 will be sent packing. Keep racking up the citations ... more money for the state.

Time is on our side. We have more of it, and if this doesn't work, we'll just make more restrictions on top of restrictions. Maybe the feds will just take the entire mountain and turn it into a national park. Be done with the BS already.

[rainyjim]

Oooh shinies.

Thats not a bad idea it would make a good national park!