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“It’s happening so often now, the school’s now taking the stance there’s no fighting on campus,” Konanui said.
There are no fights on campus. Nothing going on here.
The school has a responsibility after all, to prepare their students for life after high school. When as irresponsible adults both young men and young women can pretend incidents of domestic violence never occurred after police show up on their doorstep in response to a 911 call.
"No officer, no fight here. You must have the wrong address."
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Teachers love having smart kids because they make teaching a worthwhile, administrators love having smart kids there to keep averages up. For administrators it is all about the numbers, not individual kids' needs, most teachers my kids had in multiple school districts really cared about the needs of the individual, more than the test scores or averages, the administrators everywhere pretty much just care about the numbers.
25 years in the profession and I concur. The majority of teachers truly just want to inspire and teach kids. Most administrators want to create an environment where their teachers can get that job done. That said, there is big pressure to get the numbers. Some organisations rank their schools based on test scores, which is really mostly a measure of the socioeconomic status of their catchment area. Some remarkable schools manage good test scores despire low SES catchment areas (and without cherry picking the 'good' kids) and are good role models for other schools.
School culture is a difficult thing to change, but it can be done. It takes a dedicated staff and buy in from parents to accomplish. Dealing with 'difficult' kids involves having responsible adults making meaningful connections with them. They respond well to personal connections and loyalties and in the absence of adults to connect with they connect with their peers, who are generally not the best guides. Some schools can benefit from 'behavioral programs' with a lot of one on one assistance available. Most students can improve their behavior dramatically once they start making connections with responsible adults and get learning support to help build their self esteem. At the same time, you can't use 'self esteem' as an excuse for not disciplining bad behavior, just discipline in a way that doesn't destroy relationships with positive role models.
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Correction Shockwave and apply what you learned ...
I was speaking from personal experience and WAS talking to the teachers ABOUT testing. This 6 different teachers from 4 different schools here in town. They all love their jobs.
Neither you nor any administrator was in sight or earshot ..
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Good thing they reopened the Kulani - sounds like some of these boys are headed straight there!
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“The school has to make a stand, as well, because it’s not just two kids fighting. The other kids see it and are getting involved. And it creates a volatile situation, kind of like a riot, but not that bad. If kids are caught fighting now in the school, they’re now getting arrested for disorderly conduct, where the school is the complainant, as opposed to one student making a complaint against another student because they’re fighting.” - Puna Patrol Sgt. Brandon Konanui
The fact that this was not the policy prior illustrates exactly how far behind the education system is here. No wonder the charter/private schools do so well.
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Charter/private schools do well because they cherry pick the top kids. Parents who send their kids to these schools typically read to their kids when they are little, show up to parent/teacher interviews and check to make sure their kids do their homework.
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And it creates a volatile situation, kind of like a riot, but not that bad.
It's reassuring to know it could be worse.
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Charter/private schools do well because they cherry pick the top kids. Parents who send their kids to these schools typically read to their kids when they are little, show up to parent/teacher interviews and check to make sure their kids do their homework.
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If the children who are sent to charter schools are better prepared as you say by their parents then how are the charter schools "cherry picking"? Sounds like the charters just get good kids because those parents are actually involved in their childrens education.
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Charter/private schools do well because they cherry pick the top kids. Parents who send their kids to these schools typically read to their kids when they are little, show up to parent/teacher interviews and check to make sure their kids do their homework.
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NOT in Hawaii. Charter schools conduct a lottery every year for those who have applied. However, once in, you get to stay in.
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It would be nice if the King Kam schools spent less on equipment and fancy campuses and more on including all the children of Hawaii as the queen set it up in the first place. She was no racist, married to a caucasian, the kingdom was mixed race. Only a handful of the polynesian elite make it in? What a travesty to have turned it into an overly selective and racial quotient based school while Hawaiian children of all racial backgrounds are subjected to an unsafe hostile campus in Pahoa.
As stunningly beautiful and affordable at it is here in Puna, it's almost equally inept and corrupt.