Ormat decides not to build more geothermal

[oink]

I generally don't care for Edwards posts or the persona he chooses to portray. That said, I though his original post in this thread made sense and was pretty well stated. Why give him grief here. He provides plenty of other opportunities. (door left obviously open)

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

[ironyak]

Oink, if you're asking me, I was genuinely interested in what level of development he thought was right given his attacks on both "mainlanders" and "middle-agers". Figured there was room for discussing how to find a balance or best-of-both-worlds approach.

He comes across as so irrate and cranky it's hard not to poke fun, but he is also so critical of the Puna community, I was curious if he's willing or able to have an actual discussion on his views instead of just slinging criticisms and insults. He answered that, so oh well. As snorkle said, this is what we've become.

[pahoated]

Most of you haole transplants that never seem to mentally make it over to Hawaii act just like the above, never being able to stay coherent, usually going off into psychotic bigot babble. It is just a fact of statistics that most haole transplants don't take. Nothing to take personal. Buh-bye.

The topic is a private company declining a power source contract. It was a surprise when HELCO made the selection, since it was known at the time that only the chance of a 1000 acre industrial park in south Puna would be a cost effective addition of more geothermal power. But, Ormat was the only one that could agree with a $0.12/kw-hr power provider rate. The original need and demand was on the west side. Something might have changed, not with the need and demand, but the low cost availability.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[kalakoa]

It was a surprise when HELCO made the selection

There's obviously more to the story:

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...ng-process

According to HELCO’s report to the PUC, submitted Wednesday, Ormat ended negotiations in December.

Ignacio said it took time for HELCO to draft the 29-page document filed Wednesday, and he called the timing of the complaint and HELCO’s announcement a coincidence.

There's a saying which goes: "a coincidence is when you don't know the other half of what's going on."

[TomK]

"Most of you haole transplants that never seem to mentally make it over to Hawaii act just like the above, never being able to stay coherent, usually going off into psychotic bigot babble. It is just a fact of statistics that most haole transplants don't take. Nothing to take personal. Buh-bye."

Since you didn't give a reference for your statistics, I assume you're relying on personal experience. If that's the case, I wouldn't blame anyone, local or not, wanting to move away and not having you as a neighbor. That's likely skewing your statistics.

[ironyak]

Originally posted by kalakoa
There's obviously more to the story:
http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...ng-process

After the many years filled with delay tactics by HELCO, and hundreds of thousands of dollars spents by the applicants, it's no surprise that many would be upset by the lack of any result from this process.

Out of all those affected, is it much of a surprise that it's the Trask IDG, Hanabusa, and OHA group that's taking action with the PUC? Where are the suspeciously well-timed complaints from the other applicants? Perhaps they are simply out of the loop?

Welcome to the Hawaii Billard's Club of Business where you'll learn to play all the angles!

[tada]

I don't think y'all have to agree with every post just so long as they make you think that's all.

[kalakoa]

Welcome to the Hawaii Billard's Club of Business where you'll learn to play all the angles!

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...geothermal

Counties lost that authority in 2012 when lawmakers adopted Act 97, which eliminated geothermal subzones. Legislation introduced each year to re-establish county-level geothermal resource permits have failed to gain traction.

[ironyak]

The Trib version of the article is better. (Spoiler alert - State knows what's best, even if they can't remember what they have already done)

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...geothermal
Inouye denied the bill would take away all county oversight and referred to language in the amendment regarding county building, grading and flood-control codes.

But when asked about Act 97, she acknowledged that she was not aware counties lost permitting authority. Inouye said she supports the act, nonetheless.

“Why should we split jurisdiction?” she said, adding, when it comes to health and safety, “I don’t think the county will ever manage it as well.”

ETA: wording & formatting

[kalakoa]

"I don't think the county will ever manage it as well."

What about that TMT permit, State? Pot-kettle-black much?