No condoning tailgating but if a car is coming up fast or 'right there' Why not let them by ? There just is not enough traffic up there to not do this all the way across + plenty of openings to edge over and let them go ... Since you left early, you in no rush right ?
Better to make friends on the road than enemies.
Show aloha and common courtesy, not everyone has time to cruise it.
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I'm fine if people want to go as slow as legally possible, but if people do that, they should get over to the right when someone comes up behind them, as it prevents folks from having to pass on the other side of the road. Getting out of the way takes 5-10 seconds, max.
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Originally posted by ericlp
... In the USA, cars are rated and geared for 55MPH (99%) of them anyway. So, going over that magic number you're just burning up resources.
According to studies backed by the department of energy, the average car will be at its advertised MPG at 55 mph. But as the speed increases:
- 4% less efficient at 60 mph
- 9% less efficient at 65 mph
- 17% less efficient at 70 mph
- 23% less efficient at 75 mph
- 28% less efficient at 80 mph
My 94 Corolla gets 37MPG at 72MPH as opposed to 31MPG at 62MPH. I know this from driving long distances on 55 and 65 MPH roads. (You don't dare drive at the speed limit on these roads as you are a hazard for driving too slow!)
I agree that you can't really make up much time by speeding. Leaving a little earlier is much more effective.
I also agree that accidents are caused by inept and aggressive drivers, not speeding.
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My sedan gets 99 MPG coasting down Saddle at any speed that I'm not applying the brakes only because the MPG computer display is limited to 2 digits.
I agree that cruising UP hill at higher speeds burns more oil. The opposite is in effect going downhill. In theory you could turn your engine off around the Mauna Kea park and if everybody stays out of your way you could be shooting down at 200+ MPH to your death with UNLIMITED MPG during the ride. The Dept. of Energy doesn't post THOSE statistics.
There is a section where you can coast 20+ miles without ever touching the right pedal. Can even maintain speed limit and be safe as well.. One spot car will slow but still keep moving.
Don't bother try it if lots of cars around.
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pog: "...not everyone has time to cruise it."
Who's talking about cruising it?
If someone doesn't allow time to drive within the speed limits and instead chooses to put other travelers at risk by speeding, it is that driver who needs to do the adjusting. And that driver who will face any consequences of breaking the law.
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"I agree that cruising UP hill at higher speeds burns more oil. The opposite is in effect going downhill. In theory you could turn your engine off around the Mauna Kea park and if everybody stays out of your way you could be shooting down at 200+ MPH to your death with UNLIMITED MPG during the ride. The Dept. of Energy doesn't post THOSE statistics."
LOL! I wonder how many people here have tires rated to 200mph?
Just playing devil's advocate, but one of the major factors in traffic accidents is the amount of exposure. In other words, one big factor is how much time you spend on the road. So, by speeding, you get to your destination a little quicker and therefore your risk of being involved in an accident is lowered, so it must be safer to speed!
PS. As for VI's suggestion, pulling over might work on the Saddle, but doing that on H-130 in Puna outside the hours of 3-6pm runs the risk of cutting up some nutcase driving at 80mph on the shoulder...
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Just playing devil's advocate..."
Now where is that baloney video when you need it.
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"There is a section where you can coast 20+ miles without ever touching the right pedal. Can even maintain speed limit and be safe as well.. One spot car will slow but still keep moving.
Don't bother try it if lots of cars around."
There is a stretch like this in Ka'u as well.
PM2 not naming names but they are on his thread ...
And for cryin' out loud ... Do you TRULY believe this ???
"If someone doesn't allow time to drive within the speed limits and instead chooses to put other travelers at risk by speeding."
With a arctic blanket statement like that, you would be a total hypocrite if you ever went over the speed limit.
I wish I knew how olde everyone was here ...
