Someone flying a drone at Kaloli Pt.

[My 2 cents]

It seems the consensus here is that most of us don't want drones over or around our properties, whether we are afraid of being seen in our underwear, being cased for future thievery, or being gunned down by a machine gun. Rob, I usually agree with your moderating, but I have to point out that while the gun videos have been deleted, the suggestions that we can shoot the drones out of the sky remain. Whether it be sling shot, bird shot or buck shot, what goes up must come down. It may be fun to think about, but shooting into the air in HPP is very dangerous and will probably get you into deeper trouble than the drone pilot, regardless of what the judge in Kentucky said.

[kalakoa]

most of us don't want drones over or around our properties

Ironically, drone delivery might be the best solution to the "roads problem" (both quantity and quality).

shooting into the air in HPP is very dangerous

Unlike drone (or helicopter) flights, this would result in actual enforcement by County.

...and don't worry, it will get worse.

[Rob Tucker]

Hi My 2 cents,

My view is that the talk about taking out the drones is local talk and sentiment. Puna positions. The Youtube stuff on a machine gun mounted drone is not local.

I'm not an advocate of shooting at much of anything. But Punaweb is intended to present Puna as it is.

So for everyone's enlightenment my position on editing out the Youtube links was that it was dragging us away from a Puna related topic.

Everyone please review the User Agreement everyone approved when they registered.



Assume the best and ask questions.

Punaweb moderator

[My 2 cents]

Rob, as with other posts here I don't always agree, but I try to respect them. No exception here. We're good.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

thank you for your website but... My freedom of speech is... related to my life.
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I usually agree with your moderating

I look at Punaweb as Rob's house. He invites everyone over for a party, and on the front door are posted a few simple requests for our behavior as guests.

Some of us bring a six pack or a bag of chips, which Rob appreciates, but it's still his home hosting the party. Most of us enjoy the camaraderie, but there's always someone who will throw a steak bone down his garbage disposal, or try and play pay per view channels on his TV, even clog up the toilet. But he's a gracious host and generally takes it in stride.

Then, there's one or two who start a fire in the kitchen trash can, try to watch porn on his laptop, or take to reenacting the exact method The Who (or was it Led Zeppelin?) implemented in tossing TV sets out hotel room windows back in the '60's. He's gotta draw the line somewhere. And most of those times almost everyone else is glad he does.

Bottom line, it's Rob's house. Thanks for inviting us in today Rob.

You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.

[PaulW]

At the risk of being called a kiss-ass again, I'm going to pucker up and say : Thanks Rob, for keeping it local.

[Anxious Messiah]

This issue popped up a few months ago when the pilot decided flying within the reach of a throw net was a good idea. The owner immediately came over to the neighbors home and demanded his drone. The neighbor told him the the only way he was getting his drone back was if the pilot returned with the police, otherwise, get lost and consider it gone. Neither the pilot or the police returned.

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[mermaid53]

He's gotta draw the line somewhere. And most of those times almost everyone else is glad he does.
Bottom line, it's Rob's house. Thanks for inviting us in today Rob.

Mahalo Rob.

Still in discussion mode...We may have an issue here of new technology ahead of regulations, etiquette etc., thus a new learning curve? What may seem obvious to most, may not be to others...

How many years has it been now that cell phone use has become main stream? This would seem a no brainer to some...don't yak on the phone whilst standing in front of a bank teller or store cashier? (esp if there's a big line behind you). Some business's now have signs requesting people turn their phones off. Many of us have experienced being w/someone, visiting 1 on 1, face to face when suddenly your friend takes a call and engages in conversation for sev minutes. New cell phone awareness relating to public safety has recently come to the forefront...No talking on the phone while in a pedestrian lane crossing the road, walking in a parking lot, OR texting while driving! There's no age discrimination to what would seem like no brainers to many of us.

The definition of invasion of privacy isn't black and white to everyone...i.e. Dad just remarried after having been widowed for a year. His college educated son in his 50's, has a key still to mom and dad's house, doesn't knock, uses his key, and walks into the house in the morning hrs while step mom is in her sexy negligee. She is startled to find him in the same room (not the bedroom) as she didn't hear him enter the house. Is this an invasion of privacy for step mom? Some of us would've knocked on the front door knowing circumstances have changed. As I've learned, some will disagree.

I think there are many kinks to work out for drone use which often happens after trial and error, rather than before. IMO there's going to be a learning curve w/drones that may take years to work out and regulate. Invasion of privacy needs a clear definition pertaining to drone use. What may seem like no brainers to most, aren't to all.

[leilanidude]

We may have an issue here of new technology ahead of regulations, etiquette etc.
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No we don't.
Etiquette is simple to understand. Don't fly the damned thing over, or around, other people's homes.

[mermaid53]

So that would pretty much eliminate recreational use in most neighborhoods. Problem solved?

But what about enforcement?