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TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo
Maybe our state could change their priorities a bit to better our education system for our keiki

State is currently focused on the Oahu rail project, not telescopes or education.

Remove telescopes from the equation, State will still be focused on rail instead of education.

Then the Hawaiians could decide how best they would like to utilize

Show me "the Hawaiians" making a cohesive collective decision about anything.

With no telescopes for the millions of tourist to visit, maybe a few more Kama'Aina room rates would be available monthly.

Not sure I follow this one: staying in a hotel means sending money off-island to mainland corporations. How does that help our local economy, and what does it have to do with telescope construction?
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Originally posted by gypsy69

HOTPE, Top of the morning to you sir.

Are you a TomK admirer or Just doing your part for the grandfather generation internet watch dogs?

Many of The unemployed and section 8 people you mention are born-n-raised local folks, as is the Majority of the growing homeless population. One big difference is The local folks from here have very few options of places or nowhere to go from here. While The thousands of foreigners moving to Hawaii these days could afford to move anywhere in the world.

HOTPE, Our local Pahoa elementary and High school facilities have been around for over 100 years. My kids went to the same classrooms for school as my wife and I did, even had many of the same teachers. Lower Puna's population has been growing over the years while Ormat's Geothermal, B&B's, Malama market and many others have profited largely. How long will this area of Puna have to wait for a Hospital, alternate road to Hilo, drug treatment center or new Pahoa public school facility for our keiki?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahoa_High...ate_School

Hotpe, Please turn your T.V back on and watch a western re-run, porn or Robert De Niro's Dirty Grandpa movie. Better yet, show me and others how the dozens of large Telescopes atop Mauna Kea have helped our Island Keiki prosper over the past fifty years.


Still a little crybaby huh Gypsy? After so many lies, I figured you would end up with personal attacks. So, you did not get the county to buy you out of your evil geothermal house. Your son did not go east coast for college. You are not moving to the Mainland. It's a wonder anyone engages with you at all anymore. The fact that you find it acceptable to insult Tom tells us all we need to know. If only you could hear how ignorant you sound...

I am sure that Opihikao would be very disappointed to see that you've turned her thread into a platform for your gong show antics.
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Those who have children are the selfish ones, jmo. Too many people on this planet.
Those with 5 children when they can't even support them, even more so.
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show me and others how the dozens of large Telescopes atop Mauna Kea have helped our Island Keiki prosper over the past fifty years.
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Why wouldn't it be the parents responsibility to do this? Do you think that every business that opens up must give out handouts?
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KJ, good morning to you.

As usual, You happen to be wrong on many of your statements about me. We sold our home and property several months ago for more than the county offered and did move to the mainland like we said we would. We live within a few hour drive of where our oldest son goes to college, it's nice that we can keep our family close.

PaulW,
We find Children are always worth living for. I have a 40 hour week job on a beautiful Jack Nicklaus golf course that helps support my five kids, (no EBT or welfare needed). We bought a home with a yard the kids love and We have no regrets about leaving Hawaii except that we did not move from Puna sooner. One of The biggest differences we have noticed is certainly the educational opportunities our kids now have and embrace. We are learning about ticks that can carry lime disease rather than RLW, Leptospirosis, Dengue, Cigatara, fire ants, ROD and planned Geothermal releases.

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We sold our home and property several months ago for more than the county offered and did move to the mainland like we said we would.

Please tell us all where you've moved to, so that we can take an interest in your local politics. Perhaps there is some development on sacred lands that isn't paying its fair share by sending all the kids to college? Something that attracts millions of visitors would be best.
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Perhaps there is some development on sacred lands

Yes, I wonder if the site of the Jack Nicklaus golf course where gypsy works was as thoroughly investigated for Native American burial mounds, bones, artifacts, arrowheads, etc, at the level gypsy expects the TMT to do before construction?

Don't forget gypsy, Native Americans lived on the land where the golf course and your yard are now, for at least 15,000 years before you arrived. That's more than 15 times longer than Hawaiians were in Hawaii. That means there are probably more than 15 times as many native bones in an accessible area where people hunted and gathered food like under your home or the golf course where you work, than would be found in an inaccessible location such as the summit of a 13,000 foot high mountain.

Have you asked the native tribes how they feel about you moving into their area?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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"One of The biggest differences we have noticed is certainly the educational opportunities our kids now have and embrace."
You mean the same ones they would have here if people didn't reject billion dollar projects due to ignorance?
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Originally posted by gypsy69

KJ, good morning to you.

As usual, You happen to be wrong on many of your statements about me. We sold our home and property several months ago for more than the county offered and did move to the mainland like we said we would.




Fine. Now that you are an admitted east coast resident, we can all ignore you as your opinion means zilch now. I will relish the thought of you toiling 40 hours a week in the winter. Adios amigo!
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The local folks from here have very few options of places or nowhere to go from here. While The thousands of foreigners moving to Hawaii these days could afford to move anywhere in the world.

Good point gypsy!
Before you accepted the job at the golf course on the east coast, as a person who could afford to move thousands of miles, did you first check that all local applicants, especially members of native tribes or multi-generation residents who could not afford to move somewhere else for work - - that those people had the first opportunity to fill the job opening?

Are you 100% certain you didn't take a job from a local?

The Donner Party really wasn't that great of a party, was it?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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