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County is out of control
#11
@hotpe "thirty five catamarans" point of clarification;

Of the estimated 35 vessels mentioned in the Trib article, 8-10 of the vessels belonged to the UH sailing club and have been removed from the beach location.

The remaining 25-27 vessels are associated with the NHH Yacht club. 5 are catamarans, 8-10 are lasers, 8-10 are sunfish with a couple Hobie ones.

I will add that our club members maintain the grounds of our location.
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#12
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Originally posted by alaskyn66

Why dont they have a loiter tax, say ten dollars a day.. or twenty foodstamps.


Because it's about to become an 'Ohana Zone' for the homeless to camp 24/7 rent free.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/04/28...ana-zones/
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#13
I too am a member of NA HOA HOLOMOKU and am completely flabbergasted by the comments made about our club by Roxie Waltjen. Could our County please find a more civic minded individual to head OUR Parks and Recreation Division....please?!!!

Na Hoa Holomoku is a non profit corp. who's goal is to promote the art of sailing. It has been in existence on the Big Island for close to 17 years. NHH and the University of Hawaii have always shared space together. In 2011, the County authorized the UH Sailing club to move to our current location. (Prior to the move,we had been on the other side of the creek, between the Kamehameha Canoe Club and the creek.) Both the UH Sailing Club and NHH have been at our current location now for 6 years. Apparently, the UH sailing club has chosen not to fight this eviction.

We think it's worth the fight. There is nothing, to my knowledge like our club anywhere else on this Island.
There is of course the Hawaii Yacht Club. It operates on Hawaiian Homes Land , is more like a private country club, has no boat access to the ocean and of course no boats.

Na Hoa Holumoku is the the Hawaii Yacht club with the boats where new members are always welcome.! .We engage in sailing activities and members come from as far as Ocean View to enjoy a day of sailing.

NHH has also helped the Boys and Girls Club , the Scouts to learn sailing skills, by providing instruction, sail boats, life jackets all under the watchful presence of our skilled sailors , motorized safety boat, all at no charge.


Our club maintains it's own equipment, maintains it's location (our members move our boats, mow and weed wack our area every month without fail) and has been teaching the basics of water safety, the basics of sailing and providing family recreational sailing activities for years.


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#14
providing instruction, sail boats, life jackets all under the watchful presence of our skilled sailors

For an island that was discovered by skilled navigators sailing across a vast expanse of ocean, a fact recognized by state and county which sing the praises for the brave sailors of the Hokule'a - - this seems like a slap in the face to the people following in their footsteps.

Where does the county think our future voyagers will come from? Sailing is not only the basis for all Hawaiian heritage, it's the essential mechanism by which humans reached the island.

Portion of Hawaii’s drinking water that comes from underground wells : 9/10
Gallons of raw sewage that leak into the ground from Hawaii cesspools each day : 53,000,000 - Harper's Index
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#15


This is assuming Parks an Rec have an interest in supporting Sailing. right?
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#16
What is the difference between Na Hoa Holomoku of Hawaii Yacht Club's situation and the other canoe hale's along the beach? Why are they not being asked to move as well? Is it a cultural thing? Are Hawaiian traditional canoes somehow more acceptable than haole type sailing vessels? Do the folks associated with the different canoe clubs have more clout than the folks that run the Na Hoa Holomoku of Hawaii Yacht Club? Without any real information it is just too easy to conclude that this is a racially charged issue. Or hey, maybe it's someone inside of one of the canoe clubs who has an auntie working for the county having some kind of humbug with the sailboats? Otherwise it seems 'only fair' that all the hales have to go as well.

If this is truly an unfair bunch of BS it seems to me that the canoe clubs, in mass, should be standing up for the guys over at the yacht club.. otherwise, again, it is just too easy to conclude some sort of racial strife between the two..
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#17
Bayfront Beach is large enough to accommodate all users. No surfers or snorkelers here. And few swimmers. Why is the County perceiving a problem of too many competing users when there isn't one?

"Parks...Director... said the beach needs to be cleaned in advance of the International Va‘a Federation’s outrigger canoe World Sprint Championships in 2020."

All boats could be removed temporarily for the duration of the event (if essential).

Whenever the beach needs cleaning the owners can pull the boats on the grass. (In the photo the boat are on the grass.). Weed eating arrangements can be worked out.

Unregistered boats on the beach? Allow only boats registered with the NHH Yacht Club, which in turn registers with the County. Not brain surgery here.
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#18
no racial strife....we get along just fine. Not everyone that paddles is Hawaiian and not every sailor is haole. Some even do both. Let's leave racial B.S. with the mainstream media.
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#19
Sounds like anything associated with the UH is on the hit list.
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#20
I am surprised P&R hasn't put chain link around the bay front yet.
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