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[Obie]

Dairy Pau cheap steaks !!

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Too bad we can't have any agriculture on the Big Island.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by Obie

Dairy Pau cheap steaks !!

http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2019/0...e-cleanup/

Too bad we can't have any agriculture on the Big Island.

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Used to fish off of Cabo out of San Diego with some Idaho Dairy farmers. Because of the rich diet they were fed to increase milkfat levels in their milk (the Holy Grail of milk production), and the marbling that diet produced, Dairy cows made some of the best beef around.

BTW, "Grass Fed" is nothing by marketing flannel, much like "organic", used to make you think you are getting a better product when quite the opposite is true.

[ElysianWort]

See what I mean Open-d? With you, even the little insignificant topics. I disagree.

I would rather eat beef from cattle that have a free range of pastures to graze from than those that are trapped in small pens for most their lives eating silage.

Are you saying all companies raising cattle for beef practice the most humane techniques for their animals and all companies have vast pastures for them to graze on?

Animals eaten for meat have different tastes depending on what they are fed. Are you denying that?

I would rather eat a burger from a cow that has had a half descent life out on the pasture. I think you are misinformed if you're saying all cattle companies are using the same practices.

[terracore]

Most USA consumers have a tough time eating grass-fed beef that wasn't finished on grain, citing "gamey" flavor, tougher meat, and lack of marbling.

The USDA opted out of defining or certifying what "grass fed" meant in 2016. The original idea that a cow would be pastured it's whole life might work in Hawaii but it works few other places in the USA. The mainland has winters, and grass doesn't grow in the winter. Cows don't forage in the snow, and they have to feed them something. This presented a problem in defining what "grass fed" means. Clover is not a grass, but it's healthy for cows to forage. Corn is a grass, but it can also be a grain. Corn kernels are not a grass, but sprouted corn is considered a grass.

So there is no definition of what a "grass fed" cow even is, other than industry self-certification programs. If the label doesn't specify "grass fed and finished", it was probably fed grain at some point in it's life. And even that doesn't necessarily specify it wasn't fed a massive amount of sprouted grain.

[tada]

i rather shoot and dress out a axis deer.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by ElysianWort

See what I mean Open-d? With you, even the little insignificant topics. I disagree.

I would rather eat beef from cattle that have a free range of pastures to graze from than those that are trapped in small pens for most their lives eating silage.

Are you saying all companies raising cattle for beef practice the most humane techniques for their animals and all companies have vast pastures for them to graze on?

Animals eaten for meat have different tastes depending on what they are fed. Are you denying that?

I would rather eat a burger from a cow that has had a half descent life out on the pasture. I think you are misinformed if you're saying all cattle companies are using the same practices.

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Your reasons are non-culinary. However, almost all cattle are grass fed for most of their weight gain. The better grades are then fed grain to provide marbling, which results in much better flavor and tenderness.

I said NOTHING about all cattle companies using the same practices, OR humane practices. Those are YOUR strawmen.

Also, as far as I know, only veal calfs are kept in pens.

BTW have you ever worked on a ranch or farm
I have.

Try a Ribeye.


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[Guest]

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Originally posted by tada

i rather shoot and dress out a axis deer.

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Elk!!

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[TomK]

Open-d, please ease off your use of the quoting tool. Sometimes you look to be replying to yourself and it looks a little weird and kooky.

Thanks.

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I'll try, but the only Reply button is Reply with Quote, at least as far as I can see.

BTW, this is the ONLY forum I've seen where people object. In every other one, from City-Data to Cruisers forum, it is SOP.

To me, it is so confusing to have a post without the quote, since nobody knows to what you are responding to. Bass Ackwards, so to speak.

Kinda like having an FAQ with only the "Answers" without the "Questions", or the old SNL joke, "And now for the football scores:

7, 14, 3, 21, 10, 0, 28 14, 38...."

To me, it makes no sense, whatsoever.


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[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

the only Reply button is Reply with Quote, at least as far as I can see.

You can continue to do that, but then you could also delete everything except the main phrase or sentence you’re replying to. If you’re replying to entire paragraphs of a previous quote, you can still delete most of it, readers will see you’re quoting, and scroll back up to read the entire original post you’re responding to, if they wish.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain