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Sen Kahele and his Tmt flip flop lol
#51
these kids are much more in tune today with Cultural, environmental, and progressive policies than most of the geezers in Hawaii. I sense a change is going to come.

If you’re a teacher snorkel you definitely spend more time with the youth of Puna than I do. From my limited contact and interaction with them, and considering their actions as an amalgamated group, I wish I saw what you stated above.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#52
Being against the building of a telescope and increasing knowledge is seen as "progressive"? I think the word is regressive.
Has HAAS applied for any of the help on offer from the generous astronomy community?
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#53
snorkle wrote:

"I'm a full time STEM teacher. Science doesn't care what you guys think, but there is more to this issue than just science. Cultural and environmental considerations are important as well. I have a large percentage of Kanaka Maoli students, and when considering all the issues they, for the most part, don't support any more observatories on Mauna Kea."

Teaching STEM requires you teach students about science, technology, engineering and math. I agree that other issues should be considered, but the main job is for the teacher to teach STEM subjects and not social or cultural issues which should be taught in other classes. It's the same thing as those complaining that creationism isn't taught in science classes - the answer to that is very clear, it's not science.

Then, when you have a self-proclaimed STEM teacher who tells us all that the TMT and other MK observatories don't fund STEM education on the Big Island, when in fact they do, makes me wonder what snorkle teaches his or her students. That might well be reflected in their views.
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#54
STEM students are taught that science without ethics is an abomination.
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#55
science without ethics is an abomination.

What about teaching ethics, culture, tradition or other non STEM subject matter without the scientific context or references mentioned if it’s an associated component? Is that also considered an abomination, or perhaps somewhat incomplete and inadequate when advocating a wholistic teaching strategy?

“I think your article has been interpreted as that you were OK with dwarf-tossing.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 2/5/19, questioning the qualifications of a judicial nominee, perhaps with empathy for the Menehune, and their historical plight
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#56
Has your school (HAAS Pahoa, I assume) asked for any grants or help?
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#57
HOTPE asks;
"What about teaching ethics, culture, tradition or other non STEM subject matter without the scientific context or references mentioned if it’s an associated component? Is that also considered an abomination, or perhaps somewhat incomplete and inadequate when advocating a wholistic teaching strategy?"

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Haha.....Unless you're an evil super-villain, ethics is an important component of a STEM education. Just like a functional understanding of language (and ethics) is an important component of Social Studies. Do you seriously advocate ignoring ethics in any academic situation? Oh, now I'm starting to see what's happening here.

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#58
ethics is an important component of a STEM education.
Just like a functional understanding of language


That's not what I asked.
I asked about including science with non STEM courses. When science is a component and when appropriate. For instance, if teaching mythology, does anthropomorphism or volcanology play a role in local oral traditions?

“I think your article has been interpreted as that you were OK with dwarf-tossing.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 2/5/19, questioning the qualifications of a judicial nominee, perhaps with empathy for the Menehune, and their historical plight
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#59
As long as they get both sides of the coin.. then they can decide diba?

Shucks . Porgot to add my quote.

Spicoli: Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

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#60
diba?
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