02-20-2019, 10:57 AM
glinda, You need to grow some thicker skin. I suggest you don't take some many posts so personally.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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Why no access for those isolated by flow?
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02-20-2019, 10:57 AM
glinda, You need to grow some thicker skin. I suggest you don't take some many posts so personally.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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02-20-2019, 11:48 AM
"Sheesh Obie. your's is gone, over, repaved. But the properties along #132 are still there, still viable. So show a little heart and align yourself with your neighbors rather than stick it to them."
Why do you think I am sticking it to my neighbors? We are all working on this together.A dirt road for access would be nice but Harry says we have to wait until April. What everyone is working for is trying to get some money out of the Fed's but if you read Lisa's post you can see that is along drawn out process.Long term we expect the roads to be rebuilt like original.This isn't like Kalapana where the flow lingered for years.It has been here and now it's pau. We have a water association that built a 1 mile long 6 inch ductile iron water main complete with fire hydrants.We hooked it up to the county water system and then gave that water line to the county for their promise to supply water and maintain that water line. We want out water line hooked back up and we want water. Here is a video from a couple of days ago that shows the entire situation : https://vimeo.com/318629262
02-20-2019, 01:46 PM
In a post from Lisa:
"Applicable State and County permitting requisites must also be satisfied...The DOT/FHWA have agreed to a modified procurement process and an abridged NEPA Cat-Ex process to help expedite consultant hiring and the planning/environmental aspect of the project." - - - - NEPA - The National Environmental Policy Act, enacted in 1970--a favored tool of environmental extremists whose hobby is obstructing or preventing construction projects. Let's hope NEPA and other environmental permitting requirements are abridged as much as possible, so we can get these roadways back up for public use.
02-20-2019, 02:00 PM
Applicable State and County permitting requisites must also be satisfied
Is "must wait 6 months" a permitting requirement?
02-20-2019, 02:00 PM
a favored tool of environmental extremists whose hobby is obstructing or preventing construction projects.
Considering lava isn’t in short supply on this island, and anything that was vulnerable or threatened is now permanently protected under 30 feet of lava, environmental extremists aren’t likely to obstruct or prevent Highway 132 from reopening. Did anyone try and stop the grading on Red Road? The access to PGV? Any personal access roads?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
02-20-2019, 03:25 PM
NEPA - The National Environmental Policy Act, enacted in 1970--a favored tool of environmental extremists whose hobby is obstructing or preventing construction projects.
Let's hope NEPA and other environmental permitting requirements are abridged as much as possible, so we can get these roadways back up for public use. ---------- The lava killed everything. There should be no need for any EIS in the freshly inundated areas.
02-20-2019, 03:27 PM
HOTPE: "environmental extremists aren’t likely to obstruct or prevent Highway 132 from reopening. Did anyone try and stop the grading on Red Road? The access to PGV? Any personal access roads?"
- - - - Apparently not. But what critics of NEPA have long wanted is the ability to get waivers from NEPA permitting on certain projects. I am not a NEPA expert, but know environmentalists have long opposed any amendment that would allow NEPA regs to be circumvented in select cases any easier than that existing law now allows. Say....oh, like when lava overruns a critically important community road. (Or the Uncle Billy's demolition, which construction experts cannot undertake until a $1 million NEPA consulting project (EA/EIS) is undertaken so consultants can tell those experts how to do their demolition.) Lisa cited an abridging (shortening) of some NEPA permitting processes. Considering the circumstances, how about a waiver?
02-20-2019, 03:49 PM
Sounds like you're inventing a case of outrage here.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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