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Aloha. I had to shop for my first computer in magazines, as no one I knew owned a computer. The internet was no help, it hadn't been invented or maybe it was still suckling on Algore's teat.I chose a KayPro II, the magazine said it had superior hardware and software to Microsoft's entry level. Also in the same magazine (maybe not same month) was an article about climate change. It talked about waxing and waning ice caps. However, these ice caps...were on Mars. How did science deniers do that, I wonder.
Also, over the years, I've found one Wooly Mammoth femur and 5 Wooly Mammoth teeth. All the science I've read about Pleistocene climate said there was a mile of ice on Whidbey Island (where I was raised after school in Oahu, T.H).
How did the science deniers kill all those mammoths?
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Example: the ridiculous level to which anti-tobacco efforts have been mobilized.
And what, pray tell, is the harm in there being no tobacco use, second hand or first? After the deception of the tobacco industry has been lifted doesn't it make sense that we move beyond its use?
It's the same as with climate change where the denier's mantra was invented by the fossil fuel industry itself, and only taken up by politicians and the weak minded among their constituencies that are so easily manipulated, to serve their greedy ends. A timeline history of Exxon's efforts to hide climate science from the masses...
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-wa...-timeline/
Which almost perfectly follows the same model of deception and denial that the tobacco industry employed to hide the harmful effects of their products..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/
Thankfully the kids are getting the message. Why should we pander to the few that aren't?
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Keep it Hawaii folks.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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Hawaii kids are the future; Punaweb geezers are an extinction event.
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We need to be protected, we're an endangered species.
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Glinda: "And what, pray tell, is the harm in there being no tobacco use, second hand or first?"
Headline: Smoking now illegal at state parks, beaches in Hawaii http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/29452...in-hawaii/
It is extremism, on vast tracts of land like Manoa Campus and our state parks, to deny isolated smoking zones. Some guy walking 100 yards away gets a whiff of second-hand smoke and starts crying personal injury from smoke. Meanwhile, heavy road intersections in Hawaii have scores of vehicles backed up, including diesel trucks, causing an equally hazardous situation from fumes.
Haven't seen the anti-smoking fanatics all turn to EVs. What a bunch of hypocrites.
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Glinda: "...no tobacco use...first?"
Yea, this proposal has been floated. Headline: "Hawaii lawmakers move to ban cigarettes -- eventually" https://www.upi.com/Hawaii-lawmakers-mov...549999892/
A ban on smoking tobacco is insane. Outright attack on personal freedom. Hardcore communists would be proud of such zeal. It's proposals like this that me glad--as someone with no interest in guns--that we have a strong 2nd amendment.
The day you fanatics ban cigarette smoking is the day that I stock up on guns and put up big fences on my property line.
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They day you fanatics ban cigarette smoking is the day that I stock up on guns and put up big fences on my property line.
Yes!
It took long enough for the Climate Rally in Honolulu, something which could benefit the human race in the long run, to finally be compared with symptomatic weaknesses in the same human society, that one way or another will diminish us. Many people slowly, or one at a time, quickly.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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The Hawaiians
Hawaiian sacrifice, from Jacques Arago‘s account of Freycinet‘s travels around the world from 1817 to 1820 [Source: Wikipedia]
Who: Hawaii is the northernmost island group in Polynesia, occupying most of an archipelago in the central Pacific Ocean.
Sacrifice: The ancient Hawaiians believed that by sacrificing humans they could gain the favour of Ku, the god of war and defence, and achieve victory in their battles. Sacrifices were held in temples called Heiau. The people used were captives, particularly chiefs from other tribes, who would be “hung upside down on wooden racks.” The priest would be anointed with sweat collected from the sacrifice. Then the sacrifice would be beaten repeatedly until their flesh became smooth. Finally, they would be disembowelled and their flesh would be either “cooked or eaten raw” by the priest and the chief of the tribe.
The Aztec
Human sacrifice as shown in the Codex Magliabechiano, Folio 70. Heart-extraction was viewed as a means of liberating the istli and reuniting it with the Sun: the victim’s transformed heart flies Sun-ward on a trail of blood [Source: Wikipedia]
Who: Probably the culture that we most associate with human sacrifice. The Aztec’s were certain ethnic groups from central Mexico, particularly those who spoke the Nahuatl language. They dominated large parts of Mesoamerica from the 14th to 16th centuries until the Spanish conquest.
Sacrifice: The Aztecs bought human sacrifice to an unprecedented level. They believed that in order to keep their sun alive they would have to offer lives as human blood was a “sacred life force” that the sun god, Huitzilopochtli, needed for nourishment and appeasement. The Aztecs performed brutal and gruesome human sacrificial killings of both volunteers and members of other tribes who were captured during war.
During the reconsecration of the Great Pyramid of Tenochtitlan in 1487, the Aztecs reported that they sacrificed 80,400 prisoners over the course of four days. The sacrifices would be required to walk up the stairs of the temple where they reached a priest who would open their stomachs; cutting them from their throats down to their bellies. The priest would then offer the heart to the gods, while the bodies would be dismembered at the bottom of the temple. Due to relatively few neutral sources it can be assumed that the numbers of sacrifices have been exaggerated, but there is no denying they happened on a large scale.
The Incas
Llullaillaco mummies, Incahuman sacrifice, Salta province(Argentina) [Source: Wikipedia]
Who: The Inca Empire was the largest empire in pre-Columbian America.The administrative, political and military center of the empire was located in Cusco in modern-day Peru. The Inca civilization arose from the highlands of Peru (like Machu Picchu) sometime in the early 13th century, and the last Inca stronghold was conquered by the Spanish in 1572.
Sacrifice: Traditionally the Incas resorted to the practice of human sacrifice as a way to prevent natural disasters. The entire empire was plagued by volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and floods, which the Inca’s believed were controlled by the gods.
While many sacrifices were prisoners, some children were raised solely for the purpose of being ritually killed under the belief that physically healthy children were the purest sacrifices the Inca could offer. The Inca firmly believe that there was an afterlife where the children who were sacrificed would live in a better, happier place. In addition, the sacrifices were often treated very well before they were killed — they were given an excellent diet, a feast in their honour, and even a meeting with the Emperor.
Modern Hawaii
Who: The regressive left wing transplants from mainland North America and their imported Justice Democrat party.
Sacrifice: Parading their children around the streets to protest their own acts of supressing advancement in the name of climate and sacred turf. Calling for the silencing and imprisonment of anyone who wouldn't share in their irrational rage and fears. Their puritanical behavior led to bans of anything and everything they deemed harmful to their delicate psychi. Eventually they invoked ancient Hawaiian human sacrifice in hopes to achieve victory over those that would oppose them. See first entry under Hawaiian Sacrifice to complete account.
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Let me guess, MarkD is a smoker?
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Couldn't tell you PaulW, but I know I am. What about it? You going to lay out one of your little puritancal guilt trips?
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