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"If there's a shortage, few products will make their way to Costco shelves in Kona."
The Chinese ports in much of China are effectively closed because there is nobody to man them. Even where the ships can unload there aren't any truck drivers to move the containers. They could care less about exports, they are having to re-route food imports to anywhere there is room to take them but the containers are stacking up.
What happens if the dockworkers in California are told to stay home and the barges to Hawaii are delayed? Not getting junk from China is one thing, not getting food and fuel is another. It shouldn't take a pandemic to make one ask these questions, a big earthquake in CA could cause the same problem.
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after the missile scare the government recommended that there should be at least a 14 day supply of food on hand at the stores. And from what I understand this is mostly true. 14 days is a better buffer than mainland grocery where its more like around 3 days. This does not matter if there is a prolonged outage like terracore mentioned. So if people dont panic there will be a stock of stuff on the shelves.. if people run out and panic buy 600lbs of wheat just to be safe, then all bets are off on how long the supplies will last.
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I was on Maui after hurricane Lane. The storm caused the barges to be like 2-3 days late. At Safeway the dairy and produce sections were completely bare and some of the other sections had sparse things on the shelves. This wasn't panic buying, it was the "just in time" economy. If there are 14 days worth of food on the shelves, chances are they may be things you're not excited to eat.
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My daughter works at Queen's Medical Center on Oahu. Because of the worst flu season in decades they were required to wear face masks at all times. Last week they drastically shifted gears and told the staff that due to a nationwide mask shortage, they were requesting that they only wear face masks if they believed it was medically necessary.
China used to export these masks, now they are importing them.
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An interesting aspect to the food issue is right now Italy has shut down 11 towns due to coronavirus. You cant buy the food if you cant get to the store.
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What happens if the dockworkers in California are told to stay home and the barges to Hawaii are delayed?
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there should be at least a 14 day supply of food on hand at the stores.
Each of us can each do something about this right now. Stock up on non-perishables. It doesn’t matter where the virus came from, whether it’s natural or from a lab, or how many days or weeks supply of food Hawaii grocery stores have in stock. You can buy a 14 day, or 30 day reserve of food and necessities, whatever you think is appropriate. If not, those 10 pound buckets of poi at Costco may be your breakfast, lunch, & dinner if shipping is interrupted.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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Good suggestion on stocking up on non perishables and after reading terracore's last post , I would also add,
AVOID QUEENS !
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So HOTPE, to be clear - should everyone "stock enough household supplies to last for several weeks"? I'm not sure we've heard that before (repeatedly, going back for years
As for what to reasonably expect from the CDC, here's a highlight from from Nancy Messonnier, the Director for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the CDC, in Friday's press conference:
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/...id-19.html
"We never expected we’d catch every traveler with novel coronavirus from China. It would be impossible. We’re not seeing spread here in the United States yet, but it is possible, even likely, that it may eventually happen. Our goal continues to be slowing the introduction of the virus into the U.S. This buys us more time to prepare our communities for more cases and possibly sustained spread. This new virus represents a tremendous public health threat. "
Hopefully that spells things out as well.
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I'm not sure we've heard that before (repeatedly, going back for years
Yes, it has a familiar ring, doesn’t it?
I only re-re-repeated it (Max Headroom style) because on occasion I’ve noticed (the occasion being every hurricane season of every year) that we’re told to stock up, prepare at the start of every hurricane season in June. Then when the first serious storms start forming in August the grocery shelves are picked clean especially in the bottled water, tp, & rice aisles. Now, if people stocked up when it was suggested, I’d expect a normal amount of those items would be purchased as a storm puts us in the cone. But, yet... like Captain Renault in Casablanca, residents here are shocked! Shocked! That a hurricane is forecast during hurricane season.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
This Coronavirus may have flu like symptoms but it sure spreads more like a cold. This is a bit scary considering The seasonal flu's death rate is roughly 0.13% while this Coronavirus death rate seems to be around 3%.
Couple questions here for Paul and others.
Anyone have an update on how many have tested positive for the Coronavirus in America?
Also, How many Americans are currently being quarantined in Calfornia?
