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Gas prices / where the cheapest gas is
#51
Don't  care if it's $4.00 a gallon or $8,00 a gallon.  You live in Hawaii.  You want $3.79 a gallon gas??? Go live in Chattanooga!!! Quit killin the vibe brah!!!
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#52
(02-04-2023, 08:11 AM)achutch3 Wrote: Don't  care if it's $4.00 a gallon or $8,00 a gallon.  You live in Hawaii.  You want $3.79 a gallon gas???Go live in Chattanooga!!! Quit killin the vibe brah!!!
You know fuel is a component in the price of just about everything you buy? Including food? You also may or may not know but they have not yet invented electrically propelled container ships.  Heart
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#53
(02-05-2023, 06:30 AM)eightfingers2.0 Wrote:
(02-04-2023, 08:11 AM)achutch3 Wrote: Don't  care if it's $4.00 a gallon or $8,00 a gallon.  You live in Hawaii.  You want $3.79 a gallon gas???Go live in Chattanooga!!! Quit killin the vibe brah!!!
You know fuel is a component in the price of just about everything you buy? Including food? You also may or may not know but they have not yet invented electrically propelled container ships.  Heart

Might want to rethink that statement....

https://www.ship-technology.com/features...argo-ship/
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#54
(02-05-2023, 06:30 AM)eightfingers2.0 Wrote:
(02-04-2023, 08:11 AM)achutch3 Wrote: Don't  care if it's $4.00 a gallon or $8,00 a gallon.  You live in Hawaii.  You want $3.79 a gallon gas???Go live in Chattanooga!!! Quit killin the vibe brah!!!
You know fuel is a component in the price of just about everything you buy? Including food? You also may or may not know but they have not yet invented electrically propelled container ships.  Heart
It's a valid point though.    

Typically the nicest states and countries for living have the highest gas prices while the contrapositive is also true:   Lowest gas prices tend to be in the crappiest places.
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#55
(02-05-2023, 05:13 PM)leilanidude Wrote:
(02-05-2023, 06:30 AM)eightfingers2.0 Wrote:
(02-04-2023, 08:11 AM)achutch3 Wrote: Don't  care if it's $4.00 a gallon or $8,00 a gallon.  You live in Hawaii.  You want $3.79 a gallon gas???Go live in Chattanooga!!! Quit killin the vibe brah!!!
You know fuel is a component in the price of just about everything you buy? Including food? You also may or may not know but they have not yet invented electrically propelled container ships.  Heart

Might want to rethink that statement....

https://www.ship-technology.com/features...argo-ship/
I could see a nuclear powered container ship would be interesting.
L-dude, mahalo for the link.
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#56
That ship is battery powered. I didn't see anything in the article that mentioned where the electricity came from to charge it. Imagine the irony if it was "green energy" made by windmills when humans traversed the oceans for hundreds of years by wind power without using child labor to mine cobalt for "green" batteries.

Of course the militaries have been using electric powered propulsion since the 1950s. More electricity is generated by nuclear reactors for propulsion than is generated on land for use in our 'grids'. I don't see that coming to civilian use anytime soon. The maintenance required to keep one running requires a small city's worth of personnel, and the cost to decommission one is billions of dollars and takes many years.

About 10 years ago Lockheed Martin was 5 years away from a portable fusion reactor because the existing fission technology was enough to equip the next generation of aircraft carriers with enough power for either propulsion or their new fangled energy weapons, but not both at the same time. Maybe now that 5 year window has been whittled down to 20 in the real world.
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#57
without using child labor to mine cobalt for "green" batteries.

Cell phones use cobalt in batteries.
Laptops use cobalt.
Backup power systems.
etc
etc
etc

Most of us on Punaweb probably have a house full of the stuff.
If your argument is, yeah but EV cars have more, would that argument mean third world countries would stop using child labor for technologies with smaller batteries?  

Most likely the number of child workers needed to make phones would be the same.  
You don't often hear about the "good" pre Civil War slave owner who had a smaller number of enslaved on his plantation than the guy with the bigger cotton farm down the road.
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#58
Still doesn't make it right. And yea each
EV DOES contain thousands of times more (4654 iphone 11 ) per tesla 3r.
Thats a pretty selfish level of excess per person. IMO.
So demand is already exceeding supply in 2023 and only gonna get worse. 7 year olds working 12+ hour days in deep, ( craw in ) tunnels with zero safety gear for less than a dollar a day seems enethical to me. Whose gouging who ?
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#59
doesn't make it right. And yea

So you recognize you're posting with slave cobalt?
Rationalization served with a dash of awareness.
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#60
Newer EV batteries can be LiFePO4 based, which don't use any cobalt. They also don't burst into flame when damaged. The free market is solving this problem because more common materials are also cheaper and more profitable.

In the meantime we keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere and messing up our climate. And the cheapest solution to that is to make less CO2 in the first place.
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