covid 2023

[leilanidude]

If I am interpreting this correctly, it means that more than half of the people who said yes to the jabs initially are now saying no.

This is a pretty steep drop-off. I wonder what changed their minds?
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Since the vax doesn't really work, I would imagine is why as well as the fact that even if you are vaxxed, you still get Covid and still pass it on to others. Point being, what is the point of getting the vax to begin with?

[randomq]

Older vaccinated people I know have had much milder/shorter symptoms than unvaccinated. Fortunately the recent strains, though they spread easily, seem to be less dangerous. I imagine that's the calculus most people are making when they choose to skip. That, or they've already had it recently.

I've had (very mild) COVID this year, but may still get vaccinated a few weeks before visiting mainland family, purely for their sake.

[kalianna]

"the vax doesnʻt really work" -- Pardon me sir, but your ignorance is showing. Hereʻs the point. I had the new vax, my husband didnʻt. I never had a fever and am now recovering. My husband had a temp of 102 degrees for three days, a horribly sore throat and he is still bedridden and miserable. The vax didnʻt stop covid from spreading but it sure made it milder. Is your statement based on personal experience? Medical research?

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

If I am interpreting this correctly, it means that more than half of the people who said yes to the jabs initially are now saying no.

The most effective method according to many people in choosing COVID health care options this autumn 2023, is baseless and/or faulty information, repeated ad-nauseam*, on social media such as Facebook or TwitterX.  As well as network tv channels masquerading as news.

* nausea - also a symptom when you get COVID, because you didn’t get the vaccine

[kalianna]

Hereʻs some new information. Of the 4 of us who got covid together, 2 people took paxlovid, 1 took nothing. We are all at about the same recovery rate. One person is immuno-compromised and couldnʻt take paxlovid. He was given a drug called Lagevrio. He is now up and around. Approved for emergency use only so far. No one mentioned it to me as an option.

[Durian Fiend]

I got the initial two dose Moderna and one booster.

Last October my wife got mildly ill while we were travelling in Utah. Sore throat and sniffles. She was curious if it was Covid but we couldn't find any tests at the local pharmacy. Returning home a couple days later testing showed a really weak positive, but negative the following day.

Then it was my turn for even milder symptoms. Test for Covid said yes. For the heck of it I continued to test myself and registered positive for three weeks, despite feeling absolutely fine.

At this time I see no value in getting another shot. If Covid were to morph into a more potent virus, as it once was, in the future then I'd do it.

[MyManao]

Since the vax doesn't really work..

Really, that's different than what I've heard from several people, doctors, patients, neighbors that have gotten covid, all sorts of folks sing the vaccine's praises.. why do you suggest otherwise? What's your source of information?

[Kiana]

"leilanidude Wrote:  Since the vax doesn't really work.."

One branch of my family were anti-vaxxers. All of them in the same household caught Covid in the early days with the earlier virus. TWO of them died, one rather young in his late 40s. The other two in that household were very ill for months, at times their doctor (online health visit) begging them to get admitted to the hospital. They eventually recovered after a close scare, but one still has long Covid, years later. They now get their vaccinations. We as a family just acknowledged the two year mark of the two who have passed. So damn sad.

That branch of the family believed the fake bad "news" streams that were out there, are still out there, that it was all some type of hoax, conspiracy driven lies. There are mountains of scientific facts about Covid and the efficacy of vaccinations. My family's sad reality is another type of proof.

(I edit to add that all other family members in our lineal tribe were vaccinated from the beginning, all the rounds. We've all caught Covid, and all cases were mild.)

So, Leilanidude, where is your proof that the vax does not work? 

[leilanidude]

I am not an "anti-vaxxer" just stating that the vaccinations don't really work. Sure, some people end up (supposedly) with milder symptoms, but getting the vax does not prevent one from getting it. That is the point. You get a measles vax and you never get measles, not that you get a mild case of measles. BTW, due to all of the travel I do for work, I initially got the one-shot J&J just to get the get-out-of-jail card from getting on/off the planes. I have still had it twice, both mild, but no idea if I am just better able at shredding off a virus because of the vax or because of general genetics.

No one really knows if the vax really does give milder cases or not. It is all subjective and individualized. Wife's two sisters have both had all of the shots and both have had severe cases and they are much younger folks.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

getting the vax does not prevent one from getting it. That is the point. You get a measles vax and you never get measles

But that’s not the point, is it? Some vaccinations provide less than 100% protection, like the shingles vaccine, the yearly flu vaccine, etc etc.

No one really knows if the vax really does give milder cases or not.

So what you are also saying with that statement is, no one really knows that it doesn’t work?