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Originally posted by MarkP

Why are you coming down so hard on Damon?...

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Lack wasn't coming down on me...

His sense of humor is almost as warped as mine.

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[Rumi in Hawaii]

I would love to trust folks to train their dogs to stay within their own yards....I have a hard time walking in my own neighborhood because of dogs who are not chained or fenced in, and who are quite hostile when I try to walk by, running out into the street....it's not the dog's fault - they don't know the street is not their own property. I think it's a pretty rare case when a person can totally train their dog to stay within their own unfenced yard.

That being said, I love watching "The Dog Whisperer" on TV. And yes, I agree that a dog is a great protector of your property. Just do the appropriate training, please, because I sure would love to walk around the neighborhood in safety.

Katie

Wherever you go, there you are.

[TheodoreJay]

Acutally I really, really love dogs in general but: Took a walk to the Kalapana lava viewing and a dog came at me on the road (had to throw rocks to get it to back off), then a Great Dane came at me on a beach, ran at me from hundreds of yards away, almost pepper sprayed it (lady said it was safe, ha), had a another lady's dog come after me in an alley way when I was minding my own business (she got mad at me), had another dog came after me on a trail (no Owner in site) & had to throw rocks at it. So point being is if I were a little child, situation could have been allot worse. Also, If I were a really startled person w/ a gun what would I do .....

[gtill]

Lostboy again is sure all the problems are "locals". I've seen cows with their udders ripped apart in Kamuela and damage done to calves in Puako, all from very well off transplants with purebreds who were let loose at night for security, and took off to form packs, terrorizing the ranch cattle.

Paraquat on a hotdog did the trick, lousy thing to do, but to see a beautiful breeding Guernzy get so ruined was sickening. Of course "my little schnauzer wouldn't hurt anything" is the owners reply, and haoles are as much or more guilty of such than locals.

[lostboystoy]

why would you turn your dogs out at night? makes no sense. I want my dogs close enough to alert me, so I can get my Gun.
I don't believe in chaining up a dog, whats the point. hows it going to protect you. And if dogs are running a muck, its not the dogs fault its stupid irresponsible owners.
I am sorry but if you want to take the chance of you dog either getting eaten by a pig or poisoned by a neighbor, which is just awful. just shoot the damn thing, its not its fault. do you have any idea the suffering poison does? the don't just fall asleep, they suffer for hours sometimes days.

maybe the same could be said about irresponsible parents that let their children break into cars and vandalize and terrorize others. How about a nice hot dog laced with poison.

makes about as much sense as poisoning someones dog.
as far as us newbies, after the thousands of dollars we spend to get our pets to Hawaii, that alone should detour the bad dog owners at least a bit, irresponsible dog owners wont waste their time and money to go through the process, and don't preach to me about the pack mentality I live with wolves I know first hand what the packs are doing to the wildlife.

if your going to kill someones dog do it humanly, and fast don't make it suffer, you just lower yourself, to a much lower life form, than a dog. [V]

setting my soul free....

[lostboystoy]

let me clarify. If their is a dog chasing livestock or wild life you have every right to kill it. just do it humanly. either trap it and turn it in or shoot it. maybe some of those well to do people that don't really want to embrace Hawaii will wake up if not maybe they will go home, I am not one of those well to do people, I am just as poor as the rest of you in puna, trying to find a better life and embrace a new culture.
I am sorry I don't agree with poison! its sick and wrong.

setting my soul free....

[lostboystoy]

I myself have had to put down a few dogs that have eaten my chickens or chewed on my goats, but I took them to the vet and had them put down humanly.

setting my soul free....

[TheodoreJay]

"Bless the beasts & the children".

Wondering if shock collars are effective at keeping dogs in one area?
Theory is they get to the edge of the property & the sensor sends out a shock.
Used to work for a man who had an electric fence to keep the dogs in, they never did leave the yard.

Had a friend in the Puna area that had a really good looking rautweiler. Dog was a ***** cat once you got to know it. Then some of his other livestock started being killed at night, come to find out his own dog was doing it. Then to top it all off the dog ran out onto the road one day, car killed it.

Getting back to Tom's original post. Yes, get a guard dog but there's allot of liability & training & supervision that goes with it, almost the same responsibility of having children.

[roseroo14]

Damon wrote:

Lack wasn't coming down on me...

His sense of humor is almost as warped as mine.

Thanks Damon I knew that you would not be offended, more often than not I try and ruffle some feathers. But it's all in fun, mahalo and keep smil'en.

The Lack

[mprov]

Hey gtill,

Where can I get some paraquat? I've heard of it, but don't know if it's legal. Didn't want to go to UAP or vet and be laughed at.