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If some work has been done on the house at least once every 120 days (since 1977) then the permit is still valid. Now how they go about determining that work was done every 120 day, I haven't a clue.
Since 1977, some of the major changes have been one piece footings instead of stacked concrete blocks, tie straps on footings, more stamping requirements on plans, requirements for four foot wide shear walls at the corners, hurricane ties, roof bracing/roof decking, roof rafters closer together, etc. Interior hallways are now supposed to be three feet wide instead of thirty inches, too, so there are a lot of things that could be non-conforming and very expensive to change.
Make the purchase of the home contingent on it passing the building final, then you don't have to worry about it.
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Aloha again,
That was a missprint the building permit was actully pulled in 1987 if that makes a difference.
We love the setting and the house it is only 600 sqft but we really liked it.However it is starting to sound like more than we want to deal with.
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If you have to bring the electrical up to NEC08, you are looking at significant expense, even for 800 sq. ft. John had the right idea have a competent home inspector go over it before you sign anything. Good luck with your find.
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You didn't post what area the house is in, but make sure it is not in violation of the CC&Rs. Most subdivisions with CC&Rs have minimum sq.ft. requirements.
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CC&Rs are not an issue in a lot of areas in Puna, but John R. is right -- if they apply, it could make a HUGE difference. If they don't, its less of an issue, but making it legal is still not easy. I recommend that people get help, someone like Cat to walk it all through. Its a relatively small expense that can save a lot of headaches. Its not like it can't be done on your own (it can), but having someone familiar with the codes and the inspection process is well worth the cost.
There are some great unpermitted bargains out there and bringing them up to code and permitting them can really add value. Just know what you are dealing with before you buy.
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The property is in Mauna Loa...I'm looking for help Cat let me know how I can contact you.
Thanks agin to everyone!
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I'm just finishing up in Royal Hawaiian, had a carpenter who took it to all phases permit wise, you will however probably need a plumber and electrictan for a permit, and if on cesspool it will require an upgrade to septic, another expense.
For sure get good help, as was mentioned,
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Which Cat are you looking for? I'm hotzcatz@yahoo.com if you are looking for a draftsperson to draw up plans to get a building permit. Otherwise, you could PM Kat and she can probably help you, too.
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A home inspection can not look into the walls & see framing methods, plumbing connections, electrical wiring within & such, & a good inspector will have a statement on the report that the inspection is surface only....
Believe me when I say, a house that 'looks well constructed', & even one that had permits pulled & finaled in 2000, MAY NOT BE WELL CONSTRUCTED, or even constructed up to the 2000 codes! We have standing proof (and many PW members have seen) that many things can be screwed up within the walls of a seemingly well constructed house...
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This is a heads up for everyone with old temp. power:
We know of at least one house in HA that was never finaled in the late '80's. This week Helco came by to inform the owner that they would be pulling out the power lines in two days (today).
This owner has not done anything to the house. Nothing has changed in the 20 odd years.... Today the owner is scrambling, as her power lines to the temp pole are being removed, Helco will not reinstall the power until the house is finaled (a new permit will need to be pulled & home improvements to final the house will need to be done prior to her getting electricity).
She is semi lucky, in that her sister is next door & she can run a power line to keep some things going (refrigerator & such)
Do not know if this is just a single case, or if Helco is starting a clean up campaign on old temp power services...
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