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why does prince charles REALLY matter in PUNA
#11
Why are most posters here commenting on the most irrelevant and un-interesting aspect of the story, and ignoring the part that does really affect us?

Probably because a majority of Americans have become lazy, complacent, and ignore any fact or events that don't support their own beliefs.
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#12
A man with no Influence is at treaty talks involving the US
He works with others on a treaty that will not affect you
You will not have to pay a carbon tax
The US won't have to pay carbon tax
it's all great
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#13
Not Hawaii related
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#14
Way to keep dodging the topic. Everyone at Copenhagen is there to punish the US. So in some way, ya, it affects Puna. Still not a single comment about what is happening there, only those trying to disarm any argument by attacking the "Prince Charles" angle, which was just a cute way to introduce the topic. Apparently, nobody really cares about the environment.

First, they are attempting to create carbon taxes to punish industrialized countries (USA), who already regulate pollution from manufacturing, while NOT imposing global carbon taxes on countries like China. So in the end, manufacturing costs will go up in USA, factory jobs will move to China (which has little or no environmental regulation), and in the end we will have more global pollution, less jobs, higher costs.

Brilliant.

And to top it off, along with prices of everything going up, energy is likely to double or triple (per Obama's own admission). Just a ruse to fill the pockets of scraggly professors, inane organizations, Al Gore, and his friends.
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#15
Bring it back to Hawaii or take it somewhere else please.

Assume the best and ask questions.

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Assume the best and ask questions.

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#16
More geothermal for Puna?
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#17
I first learned that there's enough geothermal in the Big Island to power the whole state in PW and now everybody'saying it. It was even in the the recent Hawaii Business article so what's the problem- i believe it's the prohibitive cost of transmission even to the kona side if I understood the article. But think about it- the Puna side should have the cheapest electricity in the state especially with cap&trade! And when they pass the Akaka bill we could invite Prince Charles to be the King the of the sovereign State of Puna. And when they pass C&T electricity going be so expensive on Oahu everybody gotta move to Puna!



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#18
There is plenty of geothermal. The problem is that the state TAXES the steam that comes out of the ground claiming they own "mineral rights" on it. The result is that the geothermal energy which should be very cheap to produce ends up costing the same amount as electricity from oil/coal. Iceland powers nearly their entire country with geothermal and has very cheap rates.
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#19
Outstanding, maybe there is hope and we are not all too far gone to see the blatant idiocy that engulfs our everyday lives
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#20
The feds require that the geothermal power be sold at the same cost as if it were created using fossil fuels to produce it. Sort of a Jones act for energy. Rob probably knows more of the details. Also, don't forget that there was a great environmental fight to stop geothermal energy from being exploited here 15 or so yeasrs ago. It isn't as clean and tidy as we are led to believe.
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