Got the answer .Thank you all.

[StillHope]

Pam,we are discussing which lane is safer to pass.


THAT IS ALL.

[missydog1]

No, I am saying if you want to get to Hilo faster you would need to live closer, but you are committed to where you live, so your option is to accept the long drive. If it is not at rush hour - I thought it took 45 minutes to get to Hilo from Kehena. What you are not accepting is that passing is rarely a possibility on these roads, except for when there's an extra lane. I mean, when I go to Waimea (using my more common drive), I know there are two decent places to pass on the whole route and other than that I am stuck with whatever I'm following. Sometimes there is safe passing, but often just too much traffic. I notice that tourists sometimes have that mainland mentality of "oh if the person in front of me is slow I have to pass" but that mentality doesn't work with two lane rural roads.

Breaking the law by passing on the right is not the answer, and neither is passing on the left with insufficient time and visibility. The answer is not to pass and keep it safe and get there when you get there and not make commitments to be in Hilo at a certain time that aren't practical given the normal traffic. Actually I read the first post three times and don't see where you explained why you can't leave earlier. I see that you don't want to spend that much time on the road ... but that isn't something you can control other than to drive at times there is less traffic, which is probably not doable for you.

[StillHope]

To everyone:

I don't regret living where I live.

I don't approve of unsafe driving.

I don't want CA highways.

ASSUME THE BEST...


I thought it's safer to pass on the right shoulder.

Sorry,I was wrong.

[missydog1]

oh, Pam had not replied yet when I wrote my last post, but I think she said it very well.

>>>Pam,we are discussing which lane is safer to pass.

NEITHER. It is not safe to pass on the right, or legal, and it's not safe to pass on the left if the road is busy. THAT IS ALL, but you are not wanting to hear it ... don't shoot the messengers, Hope.

[robguz]

I do the drive to Hilo from Seaview M-F and it's usually 40-55 minutes. It's really not bad, and takes about the same amount of time it took me to commute 12 miles in CA. I'm not sure what the deal is in Puna, maybe just to combination of lots of stoned people and lots of cars that barely run or something. That and a lot of people here, probably the vast majority don't work, and don't need to be anywhere quickly and don't really care about others that have jobs and do. It is not like this in other places I've been to in rural Hawaii. Even on Molokai I kept getting passed when I'd go 5 mph over the speed limit. Most of Hawaii is actually like everywhere else in the country that treats the posted speed limit as the minimum. I think we also get a lot of tourists that don't know the speed limit so go under it. That happens every day to me around 5 from Pahoa to the lava viewing area.

I agree it's not good to pass on the right and I wouldn't personally risk it. Anyway, we're stuck with the situation so I've learned to know where passing lanes begin and prepare to pass safely. It's not going to get better anytime soon even with the coming highway changes that will finally address the traffic problems of say, the mid 90s. I've just learned to tell myself if slow drivers are my biggest annoyance in my daily life, then I have it pretty darn good.

[dmbwest]

Stillhope, You HAVE GOT! TO BE KIDDING US RIGHT ?

Hurry or not, you gotta deal with it ( traffic and your attitude towards it ) in a responsible manner.

Please do not endanger yours, mine or my familys or anyone elses lives with your reckless driving on the shoulder.

YOU WILL CAUSE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT BY DOING THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please, please, please DO NOT PASS ON THE SHOULDER !!!!

most seriously,
pog

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[David M]

QUOTE: "Stillhope: I thought it's safer to pass on the right shoulder."

Was this covered on your Hawaii driver's exam?

David

Ninole Resident

[Del Pranke]

Stillhope, You can't be getting stuck behind a slow driver everytime you go to Hilo, so why get yourself upset about an anecdotal situation? The fact that you overstated the driving time to Hilo might mean that you are overstating the situation in your own mind. When I take a deep breath, remember to relax and quit letting my emotions run through my leg into the gas pedal, I,m a safer driver, and the trip[ seems to go faster.

[Dave M]

LOL.. Don't listen to these people Hope! You go on over there and pass on the right sweetie. Just remember the ole (PPS) pedestrian point system. I think cyclist are like 10pts, Homeless people are 15 Pt's. Tourist will getcha 25 bonus points. (But ya almost never see em). You may check with some of the locals I may be wrong it's been a while.

Another cool way to save time is if you wear make-up, Yep, you guessed it, put that eye liner on in-between passes. (Sure you can, just use your left knee to steer).

Seriously ya'll need to lighten up.. at least she asked! "Hope" fully she'll realize that there ain't nothin in Hilo worth..

Blessings,
dave

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