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Helicopter Flights Over Hawaii Petition
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05-04-2012, 04:51 AM
Imagine the tour hilos flying 1/2 mi. out over the Pacific instead of directly over the coast line, adding a couple of miles to their route (up the rates to fly) when weather forces hilo commerce to travel alternate routes. Be productive..takes all of 5 minutes to sign the petition.
05-04-2012, 05:37 AM
Gramps, sorry but having helicopters fly 1/2 mile offshore is a death sentence to the passengers should an engine fail -- very unlikely but still.
KathyH, I agree with every point. I fly for Big Island Air, we fly an airplane, not a helicopter. I also live in Seaview, and I get annoyed by aircraft noise if I'm in the wrong mood. Oh, the irony. I'd love to answer any questions about the insides of the air tour industry... I wrote the Helicopter Spotting Guide that made the rounds about a year back. This is *such* a complicated topic. Safety first, needs of the residents, tourists, and the national park, quiet technology, etc. I do see red anytime someone suggests Hawaii shut down all air tours. No way. Passengers have emailed me years later describing it as the best experience of their life. I have personally taken over a thousand people, just in the last year, on a life-changing experience. The joy and awe that is possible on an air tour cannot be described. A helicopter is going over my neighborhood RIGHT NOW. Instead of looking up and seeing some faceless pilot, imagine the 3-9 people on board having the time of their lives. Maybe extend some compassion to the one person in back puking his/her guts out.
05-04-2012, 09:45 AM
terry, the thing is that you are arguing that if people are having a great time we should put up with whatever it does to our lives.
quote: I could say "instead of looking out and seeing "quaint" scenery and bucolic homes, imagine the 1-8 people in that house below you being woke up from naps, unable to finish an important phone call, trying to write and losing train of thought, and not able to have a conversation with each other until you pass. Maybe extend some compassion to that person in the house who might have cancer and is puking her guts out and trying to create a place to heal. (Not a hypothetical, if you read the old topics on this.) If we give noise a pass as long as the people are having a great time, then let's allow everyone to make as much noise as they like. [  ] Screw people who like quiet; they are all weirdos who don't know how to have fun. [ ]Seriously, I don't mind one or two flights a day, but some hours they come shake the house and put a stop to all productivity every five minutes, and I don't think it's right. Further, I can honestly say that I won't take an air tour or recommend them as long as they go over homes ... I am willing to do without the experience myself because I truly believe it is too inconsiderate to others.
05-04-2012, 10:07 AM
Let me see if I get the situation correctly:
Helicopters are noisy neighbors (who typically do not fly at night). But if the noisy neighbors are SPACE its okay, even for evening events? I have enjoyed events at space, and have enjoyed a helicopter ride, and one pilot helps support a friend of mine so.... Just want you all to think a little. It isn't an opinion on one way or the other.
05-04-2012, 11:37 AM
Daniel,
HPP is an enormous subdivision, just because it isn't bad at your house doesn't mean it isn't bad everywhere in HPP. Certain parts of HPP get far more frequent flyovers than others, if you are one of the rarely effected you are lucky. My house gets some, I certainly can tell when a cruise ship is docked, just by the number of flyovers, but when my parents rented a house on the water at the end of Maku'u I was amazed at the number of flyovers. Carol
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys. Polish Proverb 
05-04-2012, 12:08 PM
I'm on 5th off Makuu. They all fly right over our house. Sounds like a heliport most of the day.
05-04-2012, 01:22 PM
The helicopters don't bother me. I like to look at them. They may fly a couple or three times in the day near my house and very rarely directly over my house. I always wave at them and sometimes put a thumb in my bathing suit and edge it off. I think it is a great achievement of mankind that helicopters exist and that tourism is a nice industry to have, if you must have one. Thanks in part to helicopters, Osama Bin Laden lies at the bottom of the ocean. The helicopters bother me much, much less than my neighbor who can't seemed to control her dog "Ipo", can't seem to let a touchdown go by without screaming out loud at the top of her lungs (thank god it's not football season) and who idiotically has a Lingle bumper sticker on her car --you know Lingle, the "free" market nut lesbian who vetoed gay rights.
05-05-2012, 05:28 AM
For 14 years I lived in a tourist area where the flightseeing helicopters run non stop during the daylight 4 months out of the year. At one point there was even a public vote to ban them. (the helicopters won) They only bothered me twice- every December they fly at night on "see the Christmas lights" tours. That was annoying. The other time it bothered me is when I hiked all day to a remote cabin on a lake to get away from it all. I was miles away from any people, roads, or unnatural noise- except the helicopters that flew directly overhead all day long. Kind of destroyed the pristine Alaska wilderness thing I was hoping for.
02-09-2013, 07:42 AM
quote: How about 20-40 flights per day? Instead of a "wave" would you be flipping the "bird"? If we had the same sparse traffic as you do, there would be nothing to complain about either. This ISN'T the case for many people that have to endure this BS. |
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